Pats/Chiefs: A few final thoughts

[Amnorix]

So a few thoughts on last night's game.

1. Haley's decision to NOT go for it on 4th down and 1 from the Pats ~40 made no sense to me. Even though he punted and the defense held and the Chiefs got the ball back, it seems to me that you're 4-5 and the season is slipping away. Pats defense isn't reminding anyone of the 2000 Ravens or '86 Giants. Go for it.

2. I liked the decision to do the onsides kick. But then you remember they didn't go for it on 4th and 1. Que?

3. Holding call on . . . . errr, that Pope? Whoever it was that wiped out Edelman. Yeah, ticky-tack.

4. Endless bitching about refs in the game thread -- pathetic. Just pathetic, endless "the refs SCREWED us!!!111 giggity giggity". Just stop it. Make the complaint and move on. EVERY team in the NFL thinks the refs are out to get them. My Dad spent 50 years bitching about refs and umpires in every inning, quarter and period of every sport he ever watched. It was stupid then for him, and it's stupid now for you.

5. Palko doesn't seem like the real deal. He's young yet, so maybe, but...

6. Don't worry about the Chiefs seeming inability to cover Gronk. Nobody can. He's just a beast.

7. Chiefs defense seemed pretty good, overall. I imagine ti will be much better when Berry is back.

8. Pats came out really flat in the first half, but credit to the Chiefs also. They showed spirit for a good while.

9. Running up the score -- I don't mind Belichick going for it on 4th down late near the end zone. Punting isn't an option, and kicking a FG is stupid, but I'd much rather just man up and run it up the middle rather than what we did. At least this proves that BB does it to everybody, even his buddy Pioli. He's consistent, I'll say that. Pats have no right, ever, to bitch about anybody rolling up the score on them though.

10. Alot of very sad posts in the game thread about trying to hurt Patriots players now that the score is out of control. WTF kind of Raiders-esque thinking is that by Chiefs fans? And if any of them is a parent, WTF kind of sportsmanship is that?

11. Nobody will know if the Patriots really have a good team until the playoffs. The rest of it's schedule is a cake-walk. They may really be pretty good, especially once some of the injured bodies come back, or another one-and-done.

12. Patriots' "lowest ranked defense". I'm hearing that alot, on TV and around here. Yes, BY YARDS. But the Pats defense is middle of the pack by points, the only thing that matters. Not that the defense is all that good -- it isn't, but this "NFL's worst defense" is a tad misleading.

[mlyonsd]

13. We suck.

[Molitoth]

10. Alot of very sad posts in the game thread about trying to hurt Patriots players now that the score is out of control. WTF kind of Raiders-esque thinking is that by Chiefs fans? And if any of them is a parent, WTF kind of sportsmanship is that?

Most of those people should be banned because they are useless trolls anyway.

[the Talking Can]

we proletariats don't know how to act proper around you middle class types...sorry to offend your delicate posting sensibilities

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

13. We suck.

Well, take away any team's best player on each side of the ball and a couple other key players and it won't help any.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

we proletariats don't know how to act proper around you middle class types...sorry to offend your delicate posting sensibilities

Look, if you want to be a classless A-hole, that's fine, but why in hell would you go around publicly announcing, at the top of your lungs, that you're a classless A-hole?

You can think "fine, pop Brady's knee again! Bastards deserve it!!!" But then you post it? What are you, 12? Why don't you at least PRETEND that you're not completely classless? JFC.

But, fine. You insist I consider you a classless A-hole. Done.

[Red Beans]

1. Valid
2. Spanish
3. Valid
4. When the Pats lose, you (the royal sense of the word) do the same thing. It happens everytime. You should not judge.
5. No. He's a 28 yr old stopgap at best.
6. Someone can. But yes, he is a beast.
7. You imagine right.
8. We're they flat, or was the D just beasting? Our D has potential, especially when we can get to the QB. Thanks for trying to take what little dignity the defense had last night.
9. Valid
10. Go **** yourself with a rusty egg beater.
11. The Pats are going to be soft going in to the playoffs. Someone is going to punch them in the mouth.
12. Please go post that on a Pats message board.
13. Thanks for the Pats centric look at the game. It's not like the media hasn't already treated us to that for like, oh say, the last five years.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

13. We suck.

Yeah. that pretty much sums it up for me.

It's hard for me to get interested in breaking down these remaining games.

We stink. The coach is likely gone. The QB should be gone and the O-line needs almost completely rebuilt.

Might as well talk draft.

[Demonpenz]

Palko isn't that young

[bobbything]

Palko isn't that young. And the only thing that really, really pissed me off about the game was the "holding" call on Pope. That was awful. At worst, we would have gotten 3 points out of the drive (which in "Chiefs Points" is like 3 touchdowns). While I had no delusions that we were going to win the game, I thought that was the turning point when things started to go to shit. Pats get the ball back, drive down and score 7.

It's just frustrating because I stayed mad about that call for the rest of the half. Then, in the 2nd half all I could do was laugh at how bad this team is.

The Pats are good. They have been for the last decade. The Chiefs aren't. I'm starting to have my doubts about whether or not I'll ever see a playoff win in my lifetime. The last one I witnessed, I was 14.

Pathetic.

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Well, take away any team's best player on each side of the ball and a couple other key players and it won't help any.

Every team is going to have injuries to key players. Not having the depth to overcome it is on the gm/coaching staff.

Just an awful, awful waste of a year. I'm back to my Herm doldrums.

[Okie_Apparition]

1. Haley's decision to NOT go for it on 4th down and 1 from the Pats ~40 made no sense to me. Even though he punted and the defense held and the Chiefs got the ball back, it seems to me that you're 4-5 and the season is slipping away. Pats defense isn't reminding anyone of the 2000 Ravens or '86 Giants. Go for it.

When you're walking into a prison shower for the first time & the soap is laying on the floor. You want them to know that you're crazy & unpredictable. Ask r8ders

[HemiEd]

Haley made some goofy decisions, the onside kick was stupid, but it would have been brilliant had it worked. Not to challenge the touching by a Chief was also stupid. If you are going all in, go all in. Not going for it on NE side of the field, also stupid.

The Chiefs were fired up and ready to play, and as soon as they realized Palko was Cassel2, they were ****ed.

BB made some great halftime adjustments as always. That Polish TE should be banned from football, it isn't fair.

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition

1. Haley's decision to NOT go for it on 4th down and 1 from the Pats ~40 made no sense to me. Even though he punted and the defense held and the Chiefs got the ball back, it seems to me that you're 4-5 and the season is slipping away. Pats defense isn't reminding anyone of the 2000 Ravens or '86 Giants. Go for it.

When you're walking into a prison shower for the first time & the soap is laying on the floor. You want them to know that you're crazy & unpredictable. Ask r8ders

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

That Polish TE should be banned from football, it isn't fair.

Gronk is a beast, no question. Fun to watch. He wasn't highlighted last night, and is always dinged up, but when our other young TE, Aaron Hernandez, is going well, he's pretty damn good too.