What If The QBOTF Isn't There?

[bevischief]

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What If The QBOTF Isn't There?

1528290_f520_tiny by citadelchief on Nov 30, 2011 7:08 AM CST

From the FanPosts -Joel

As we begin to accept that the Kansas City Chiefs will probably miss the playoffs and will be drafting in the top 15 next year, there is a lot of talk about who the Chiefs should be taking...OK, we've already been talking about it for a couple months now. Obviously, the majority of Chiefs fans are looking at QB with the first pick, and rightfully so. Personally, I agree. I would love for KC to get Andrew Luck, Matt Barkley, or Robert Griffin III.

However, I am a plan for the worst and hope for the best type of guy.

Star-divide
Looking ahead at the 2012 NFL Draft, I see some very worrisome possibilities in the Chiefs drafting the QBOTF with the first pick. It is a strong QB class with plenty of potential stars, journeymen starters, and quality backups. However, we have had our fill of journeymen and backups...we want our star. So, that limits our options to Luck, Barkley, and Griffin.

So what's the problem? There are several:

1. Indianapolis - The Colts have all but wrapped up the 1st overall pick, and with an aging Peyton Manning coming off of an injured neck, they would have to be crazy to pass over Andrew Luck.

2. Miami - Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. That's what everyone needs to be thinking when it comes to Matt Moore. The Dolphins would be nuts to put their future in his hands. The Panthers tried that, and now have Cam Newton...so the Dolphins will get Matt Barkley. Hmm, maybe the Chiefs should sign Matt Moore so we can get our QBOTF?

3. Washington - John Beck or Rex Grossman? Yeah, let's face it, the Skins will be going QB early this year. The good news here is that Landry Jones is rated higher than RGIII on some boards...so maybe the Chiefs dodge a bullet with that one.

4. Seattle - That bullet we just dodged? Yeah, it turned around and got us. Seattle gave up a 3rd rd pick for Charlie Whitehurst so they wouldn't have to draft a QB. They signed Tavaris Jackson so they wouldn't have to draft a QB. I really don't see this happening a 3rd time. Griffin just got snagged.

5. Arizona - Kevin Kolb failed miserably. There was some life with John Skelton, but that quickly fell apart as well. The Cardinals may be looking at a new coach and a new QB to go with him. If any of those top 3 are available, I just can't see them passing on that opportunity.

6. Philadelphia - What?! That's right, you heard me. Don't think for a second that the Eagles won't pull the trigger if the opportunity is there. Mike Vick started out great for them, but then he has steadily declined, just like he did in Atlanta. Vince Young has played well enough that he can probably get himself a pretty good opportunity somewhere else.

7. New York - Don't get it twisted, Mark Sanchez is playing for his future right now. Rex Ryan pulling him off the 1st team for a couple practices wasn't about him losing his job to Mark Brunell this year, it was about him losing his job to a new guy next season. Sanchez isn't down and out yet, but if the Jets don't make the playoffs? Well, Sanchez might want to warm up his clipboard arm.

So there it is. My list of concerns. And this doesn't include the teams like Chicago, Denver, and New Orleans who will be in the market for backups and future projects.

Now, the Chiefs do have the option to trade up. The Jets did it for Sanchez and the Falcons did it for Jones...but are the Chiefs in the same place as either of those teams? I look at the roster, and it sure doesn't appear that way. I'm not against a trade up, but I can't say I'm thrilled about the idea.

[MahiMike]

I'll give the same response I gave on that board:

ok, so now all of you short-sighted folks that didn’t wanna ‘Suck for Luck’ now see why we were screaming this at 0-3. We screwed the pooch! However, lucky for everyone on this board, I’ve found the perfect solution:

Trade Matt Cassel and a 2nd round pick back to New England for Ryan Mallet. He’s better than any of these QB’s.

[Dayze]

The Chiefs organization doesn't believe in drafting franchise QBs. We get our 'franchise' QBs from other teams scraps.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by MahiMike

I'll give the same response I gave on that board:

ok, so now all of you short-sighted folks that didn’t wanna ‘Suck for Luck’ now see why we were screaming this at 0-3. We screwed the pooch! However, lucky for everyone on this board, I’ve found the perfect solution:

Trade Matt Cassel and a 2nd round pick back to New England for Ryan Mallet. He’s better than any of these QB’s.

GOOD GOD MAN. What the hell Chiefs fans? I was all but crying into my drink at BWW on draft day when we passed on Mallett three times. However, if he was not worth a second last year, he sure as shit isn't worth one this year when the draft is ten times deeper. Just saying.

[WV]

Originally Posted by MahiMike

I'll give the same response I gave on that board:

ok, so now all of you short-sighted folks that didn’t wanna ‘Suck for Luck’ now see why we were screaming this at 0-3. We screwed the pooch! However, lucky for everyone on this board, I’ve found the perfect solution:

Trade Matt Cassel and a 2nd round pick back to New England for Ryan Mallet. He’s better than any of these QB’s.

Or talk to GB about M. Flynn.

[Nightfyre]

You know what?? Chiefs fans don't deserve a franchise QB. Let's keep looking for backups other teams have developed rather than developing one of our own!

[OnTheWarpath15]

Look at the remaining schedules for those teams, Joel.

As long as we lose out, we could only be worrying about Indy.

Seattle, Washington, Miami, Etc all have a winnable game or two left.

And Arizona just went full Matt Cassel and gave a $60M contract to Kolb - they aren't taking a QB.

We lose out, and we may only have to worry about teams trading up with the Rams or Minnesota to get ahead of us.


Of course, this will happen, and Pioli will trade up for or take Kalil.

[kcpasco]

I want a franchise Qb also

Who is the best prospect in this draft non Qb?

[WV]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

You know what?? Chiefs fans don't deserve a franchise QB. Let's keep looking for backups other teams have developed rather than developing one of our own!

Kind of hard to get on board with that logic when it's never happened before.....ever.

[suds79]

I'm not so sure Washington takes Jones over RG3. With their bootleg system, RG3 would be perfect for that.

Plus I get the feeling that come combine when everybody see's RG3's speed, arm strength, accuracy, size & smarts, I could see his stalk shooting up.

Basically it comes down to this. We're tied in record with Washington right now. We basically need to lose. No more "win as many games as you can BS." We need to lose bigtime.

[Extra Point]

Originally Posted by WVChiefFan

Or talk to GB about M. Flynn.

THIS!

Talk about crying in your beer when we passed on him!

[suds79]

Originally Posted by kcpasco

I want a franchise Qb also

Who is the best prospect in this draft non Qb?

I've been so focused on QB I'm not sure.

Justin Blackmon?

Trent Richardson is looking pretty good but RBs can always be found late.

[milkman]

I think these Chiefs have a very good chance at picking high enough to draft the QB they need in the first roind.

However, should I be wrong about that, I'd be willing to see if Foles or Tannehill (who I haven't seen, so I'm basing this on what I'm reading) are there in the second round.

I also like Ryan Lindley, and would take a flyer on him.

I like Matt Flynn, but really, what have actually seen?

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by WVChiefFan

Kind of hard to get on board with that logic when it's never happened before.....ever.

How many times, since 1990, has a superbowl been won by "some other teams backup QB"?

Steve Young and Brett Favre maybe?

[WV]

Originally Posted by milkman

I like Matt Flynn, but really, what have actually seen?

Agreed, but his name isn't Cassel and the harsh reality is that I have little confidence that Pioli is going to select a possible difference making QB in the draft. Flynn may be more appealing to them....who knows.