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Old 05-07-2014, 08:32 AM  
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Bob Sutton

I have asked this in threads before, and I get no legitimate response, so I am going to start this thread.

Over and over, and over again, people keep saying that Sutton made no adjustments, and is responsible for the failures of this defense.

I have no dog in this, but I want to know, what exactly do you think he could do?

This defense was playing spectacularly for the first 5-6 games, but then Buffalo, Houston and the Donkeys had enough film to recognize that they could exploit the deep zones because Kendrick Lewis was almost always in the wrong place, and they adjusted their game plans to take full advantage.

Sutton tried to counter that by moving the corners off the line, which allowed offenses to exploit the short passing game and minimize the pass rush, which was also affected by the loss of Houston to injury, and a less than 100% Hali.

The one critisism that is completely valid is that Sutton did not utilize a rotaion on the line that kept Poe fresh, and he was not the same player for the 2nd half of the season that he was for the first half, because he was just worn out.

So, again, I ask, given the limitations of the talent, what exactly did you expect Sutton to do?
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:34 AM   #2
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So, again, I ask, given the limitations of the talent, what exactly did you expect Sutton to do?
to make the defense not suck.
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:34 AM   #3
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Perhaps he didn't rotate Poe because the guys behind him are crap.

This team has no depth.
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:36 AM   #4
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:38 AM   #5
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It's quite simple.

Replace Kendrick Lewis.
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:38 AM   #6
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:40 AM   #7
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to make the defense not suck.
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It's quite simple.

Replace Kendrick Lewis.
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:40 AM   #8
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I complained about Sutton when the D went into the shitter.

Then, I realized that maybe they just need to play better.
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:41 AM   #9
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It's quite simple.

Replace Kendrick Lewis.
That's the first order of business, but it isn't quite that simple.

We need an ILB alongside DJ who isn't absolutely useless in pass coverage, and more pressure from at least 1 of the DEs.

That ILB, though, would really allow Sutton, if he does have the chops, to really maximize Berry's versatility.
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:43 AM   #10
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Sutton caught the most shit after the playoff game. His refusal to play deep coverage was infuriating, especially watching TY Hilton torch us play after play. Other than that, milk is spot on here, and this is coming from a guy that wanted Sutton's head on a spike initially.

That gif showing Luck hitting Hilton for the dagger TD against us with Kendrick Lewis and Dunta Robinson in "hot" pursuit 10 yards behind is all you need to see to explain why our D ssucked so bad in the second half of the season last year.
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:45 AM   #11
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That's the first order of business, but it isn't quite that simple.

We need an ILB alongside DJ who isn't absolutely useless in pass coverage, and more pressure from at least 1 of the DEs.

That ILB, though, would really allow Sutton, if he does have the chops, to really maximize Berry's versatility.
I agree. While I have been wanting us to take either a receiver or safety tomorrow, I would feel pretty good if we snatched up Kyle Van Noy. He can be your other ILB, even if he can play outside. The guy really is that talented.
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That's the first order of business, but it isn't quite that simple.

We need an ILB alongside DJ who isn't absolutely useless in pass coverage, and more pressure from at least 1 of the DEs.

That ILB, though, would really allow Sutton, if he does have the chops, to really maximize Berry's versatility.
Right, but I'm talking about last year.

If Lewis were benched, and Abdullah replaced him as teams like Houston and Buffalo started to figure us out, I'll bet Sutton never would have played the corners off the line, and we could actually press the shit out of Denver's receivers successfully.

I still don't know if the Indy game would have had the same result, but it at least would have deflected so much fan criticism away from Sutton. You wouldn't see such an abysmal product on the field for the second half of the year.

People are on my ass about this, but if we trade down from 23, Kyle Van Noy should absolutely be a consideration, where he can be the primary backup to Hali and the starter at ILB next to DJ when he's not. He would provide interior pressure and coverage skills that Mays, Jordan, and Belcher never had.
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:49 AM   #13
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I agree. While I have been wanting us to take either a receiver or safety tomorrow, I would feel pretty good if we snatched up Kyle Van Noy. He can be your other ILB, even if he can play outside. The guy really is that talented.
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Sutton caught the most shit after the playoff game. His refusal to play deep coverage was infuriating, especially watching TY Hilton torch us play after play. Other than that, milk is spot on here, and this is coming from a guy that wanted Sutton's head on a spike initially.

That gif showing Luck hitting Hilton for the dagger TD against us with Kendrick Lewis and Dunta Robinson in "hot" pursuit 10 yards behind is all you need to see to explain why our D ssucked so bad in the second half of the season last year.
I believe Hilton began torching the D when Flowers went out.

Right?
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:49 AM   #15
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I'm cooling it w/ my insider posts.

I never get comments on my fresh football mind.

You all can screw off! I'm bumping the Fried Chicken thread!
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