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Old 08-16-2014, 08:22 PM  
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Old 08-16-2014, 08:27 PM   #2
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Old 08-16-2014, 09:08 PM   #3
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Old 08-16-2014, 09:10 PM   #4
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You know, if we could get robots to do all the work in the world, we could all go without working a day in our lives. Of course, why would we need an education at that point? So would begin the devolution of the human intellect. Idiocracy will come to pass, which near as I can tell, it will anyway.

This does raise questions about the future of humanity without darwinism to pick off the weak. Human kind will plateau from an evolutionary perspective, and eventually decline. That is, until the next extinction event wipes us off the face of the planet. My conclusion is therefore, that sometimes it is better to let nature take its course.
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Old 08-16-2014, 09:13 PM   #5
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Good point, if everything is automated then do we just go to socialism and few work?

I'm not smart enough to wrap my mind around how this would work.
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Old 08-16-2014, 09:18 PM   #6
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Good point, if everything is automated then do we just go to socialism and few work?

I'm not smart enough to wrap my mind around how this would work.
Read "Why the Future Doesn't Need Us" by Bill Joy for a worrisome take on how the future might play out and The Age of Spiritual Machines or The Singularity is Near by Ray Kurzweil for a more hopeful take.

FWIW, your question is one raised by Kaczynski in his manifesto
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Old 08-16-2014, 09:22 PM   #7
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There will be massive loss of jobs. People and society will adjust just like they have when other advances happened.
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Old 08-16-2014, 09:25 PM   #8
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Good point, if everything is automated then do we just go to socialism and few work?

I'm not smart enough to wrap my mind around how this would work.
I just don't see capitalism as its currently practiced here in the USA surviving. Even today you are seeing the income inequality gap widen between rich and poor. When those middle class $50K a year jobs disappear, thats when the change will take place. No strong middle class, no status quo. It's inevitable.
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Old 08-16-2014, 09:31 PM   #9
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Read "Why the Future Doesn't Need Us" by Bill Joy for a worrisome take on how the future might play out and The Age of Spiritual Machines or The Singularity is Near by Ray Kurzweil for a more hopeful take.

FWIW, your question is one raised by Kaczynski in his manifesto
On it, needed a new Kindle read after finishing Moneyball. I'll read the bad news by a guy named Joy first and come in here to report the doom and gloom later. Sounds like the government will need to create some mass sterility and disease to lower the population.

Don't need a bunch of unemployed third world low class losers messing it up for the top 1% now do we?*




*like I said I just read Moneyball, where the establishment is out to stick it to the little man. Sorry for the melodramatic post. We are all ****ed though.
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Old 08-16-2014, 09:34 PM   #10
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I just don't see capitalism as its currently practiced here in the USA surviving. Even today you are seeing the income inequality gap widen between rich and poor. When those middle class $50K a year jobs disappear, thats when the change will take place. No strong middle class, no status quo. It's inevitable.
This seems a bit ironic, because it would be capitalism putting itself up of business. Just like the humans who create and program the robots and automation.
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Old 08-16-2014, 09:35 PM   #11
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Old 08-16-2014, 10:29 PM   #14
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A good bit of what I used to do is automated. I work as hard as I ever did.

Autosteer owns. It ****ing owns. It is money in the bank. But it takes a huge amount of setup work to make it right. ITEC Pro takes exponentially more setup. You can gain massive productivity, but it takes a lot of management.

Much more automation is possible, but the lawyers won't let unmanned vehicles go, and it isn't close.

Bottom line is this, automation allows for efficiency without expertise or training costs. That is good. But nothing bars competition from automating as well. Over the long term, automation massively increases productivity but reduces margins.
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