An interesting Mock by Chad Reuter

[KChiefs1]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...baker-mayfield

54. Chiefs: Sam Hubbard, EDGE, Ohio State
78. Chiefs: Nathan Shepherd, DT, Fort Hays State
86. Chiefs: DeShon Elliott, S, Texas
122. Chiefs: Wyatt Teller, OG, Virginia Tech
124. Chiefs: Marcell Ateman, WR, Oklahoma State

[Mother****erJones]

Hubbard at 54 would be a score for Veach.

[Chargem]

No corners at all? I like the individual picks but gotta get at least one corner surely?

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Hubbard at 54 would be a score for Veach.

Big time, as an avid OSU fan, I have watched him for a long time. Hubbard is incredibly smart, very physically talented, and would be a phenomenal score at that pick. One pick I would like later if we cant get something like that, watch Jalyn Holmes for the Buckeyes, the guy is a freak, capable of playing an D-line spot, and has a motor that doesn't stop. He will be tremendous value, because he will go later because his numbers aren't high (playing with Bosa, Lewis and Hubbard will have that affect).

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Don't know those players but my philosophy would not involve drafting a WR with our last pick. I'd get another fatty for the OL.

With the weapons we have on Offense I'd love to see the OL become our best group over the next 3 years.

[Chargem]

This draft also has Maurice Hurst available at 54 and the Chiefs passing on him. That would be insane.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Chargem

This draft also has Maurice Hurst available at 54 and the Chiefs passing on him. That would be insane.

In the interest of research, here are their respective highlight vids -

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

Don't know those players but my philosophy would not involve drafting a WR with our last pick. I'd get another fatty for the OL.

With the weapons we have on Offense I'd love to see the OL become our best group over the next 3 years.

There's always a small school corner with great measurable that fall deep in the draft due to the lack of competition. This year I'd rather go there than a receiver. I think we are definitely set at WR for '18 as of right now.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

Don't know those players but my philosophy would not involve drafting a WR with our last pick. I'd get another fatty for the OL.

With the weapons we have on Offense I'd love to see the OL become our best group over the next 3 years.

I just realized today that Damien Mama was signed off the Chiefs Practice Squad in December 2017 and re-signed with them in 2018.

If he ever reaches his potential, it’ll be like losing David Irving a few years ago.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

Don't know those players but my philosophy would not involve drafting a WR with our last pick. I'd get another fatty for the OL.

With the weapons we have on Offense I'd love to see the OL become our best group over the next 3 years.

What about the defense?

Two things are happening here:

1) You are undervaluing the existing line under the command of a QB who is literally incapable of quitting on a play or shitting his pants.

2) You are overvaluing a defensive unit that has far more instability and question marks than most people would like to admit. Plus, they just don't have any "gel" as a unit. The absence of Berry and his on-field leadership really hurt the defense in 2017. Every good defensive unit has a player or two players that all of the other guys rally around and perk their ears up when that guy speaks.
And though I'm sure Berry did everything he could from the sideline, it's just not the same thing as being on the field and in the battle with the other players.
And, should Berry fall, his health become suspect, and he no longer be able or allowed to play football, who will step in to that role? I see NO ONE at this present time who can step in to those shoes.

And do not forget:

Our defense is run by a major, paid, and professional spokesman for the Ultimate Bucket brand drool-catching apparatus. He is truly terrible and matched only by Reid's "prowess" as an Offensive Coordinator on game day.

The defense needs torn down, built-up, and overhauled completely.

[kccrow]

If those top 2 picks are there at those points, I'd shit my pants. Both a round low IMO.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by kccrow

If those top 2 picks are there at those points, I'd shit my pants. Both a round low IMO.

I disagree.

Hubbard will be scrutinized because of the talent around him at OSU. He is a solid player, but not exactly quick twitch. I think he makes a better 4-3 End as I question his ability to play in space as a 3-4 OLB. Early to mid 2nd round seems appropriate.

Shepherd has a chance to get into the 2nd after a great Sr. Bowl and Combine. He tests extremely well, but his level of competition will be questioned and he was not exactly dominant statistically. I think he is a 3rd round talent for these reasons.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

I disagree.

Hubbard will be scrutinized because of the talent around him at OSU. He is a solid player, but not exactly quick twitch. I think he makes a better 4-3 End as I question his ability to play in space as a 3-4 OLB. Early to mid 2nd round seems appropriate.

Shepherd has a chance to get into the 2nd after a great Sr. Bowl and Combine. He tests extremely well, but his level of competition will be questioned and he was not exactly dominant statistically. I think he is a 3rd round talent for these reasons.

I also question Hubbard's ability to translate to OLB, but he's a very good run defender and that, with his athleticism, and his flashes of being able to get to the QB are enough to get him drafted relatively high. I don't think Hubbard makes it past 40. 54 is a huge stretch.

As for Shepherd, he really showed up during the Senior Bowl week and that's sometimes proof enough that a guy can handle the jump in competition. He might be there at 78, but I think he's going to go closer to our pick at 54 than our pick at 78.

[O.city]

I'll go against the belief here, but I'm not a big Sam Hubbard fan.

I think he's an off ball linebacker in a 43. He looks like an athlete trying to play football.

[Chargem]

I also just don't think using the highest pick on a linebacker makes sense. Yes there isn't much depth at inside or outside, but surely you don't use your highest pick on a depth guy unless you properly love a guy.