Football 2017 QB Draft

Pitt Gorilla · 08-03-2019, 05:26 PM

The 2017 Draft turned out perfectly for us, clearly (Thank you Bengals et. al). The question is no longer who the best QB from that draft is; it's who is second-best between Watson and Trubisky, as evidenced by threads posing that question on each of their boards.

So, here's my question: Why in God's name did the Bears trade up one spot to take Mitch? What could possibly be the rationale here? There were ZERO other teams dumb enough to trade up to the #2 spot for him, so why not take his inferior ass at #3, especially given the insane amount of draft capital they gave up. I don't get it.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 08-03-2019, 05:30 PM

It does seem odd. Maybe they had inside intelligence that alerted them another team was willing to trade to #2 so they had to beat them to the punch and offer a better package to secure what they thought was LOLOL the awesomeness.. It's really the only explanation.

BryanBusby · 08-03-2019, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

So, here's my question: Why in God's name did the Bears trade up one spot to take Mitch? What could possibly be the rationale here? There were ZERO other teams dumb enough to trade up to the #2 spot for him, so why not take his inferior ass at #3, especially given the insane amount of draft capital they gave up. I don't get it.

I said it the moment it happened, and again later and I'll repeat it again. I have no idea why the **** the Bears traded what they did to move up one spot to secure Trubisky. They could have moved down and still got him, if anything.

Right now I think the #2 QB from the draft is Watson, but that could change by the end of this upcoming season. Tittiekisser is getting more reps in a good system and has pretty good options to work with.

Meanwhile in Houston, that line is still shit and really outside of Hopkins playing out of his mind none of Watson's weapons are worth a ****. The Texans need to wake up and fire BoB and get him some quality coaching.

Pitt Gorilla · 08-03-2019, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

It does seem odd. Maybe they had inside intelligence that alerted them another team was willing to trade to #2 so they had to beat them to the punch and offer a better package to secure what they thought was LOLOL the awesomeness.. It's really the only explanation.

Suppose some team actually was stupid enough to move up for Tribs. WHO. GIVES. A. ****? Let them. You get to keep all your picks AND get at least as good of a prospect. This makes zero sense under any scenario.

**RealSNR** · 08-03-2019, 05:45 PM

And your question is further complicated by the fact that the Bears had just signed Mike Glennon to a 3 year deal only a month prior to drafting Trubisky. And there was no change in coach, GM, or lead front office personnel from the previous spring. They had the exact same decision makers in place who would have done all of the regular season scouting in addition to checking out things like the combine, which were all events that took place BEFORE free agency.

So if Trubisky was truly THEIR GUY and they believed no other QB was good enough for them, then MAYBE the trade up makes sense, but the fact that they spent all that money on a 3 year deal for Mike ****ing Glennon really throws a wrench in the works there.

In any case, it was a clear case of indecision, lack of a coherent power structure, and a lack of communication on the part of the Bears. It wouldn't surprise me at all if that chaos and disorganization played a part in their dumbass trade up.

KCUnited · 08-03-2019, 05:48 PM

The Bears created a bidding war for Trubisky with themselves. The simple answer is Ryan Pace is a complete butt****ing moron.

After 4.5 years of working from home in Chicago, I'm now being required to work out of an office 2-3 days a week. I'm not happy about it, but the silver lining is that I have my work station looking like a ****ing shrine to Mahomes, which is soon to include a box of cereal I'm having shipped. Every time they want to get excited about Trubisky, they walk by my station and are reminded that they passed over what could've been their Aaron Rodgers (whom they hate) for Alex Smith. The looks on some of these wannabe Ditka's makes the commute halfway worth it.

wheeler08 · 08-03-2019, 06:39 PM

This will go down as one of the worst draft mistakes in history, along with the Blazers skipping Jordan for Bowie (or at least that’s who I thought was involved without me looking it up). Imagine that Bears defense combined with Mahomes!

It’s not only did they trade one spot up for him, it’s how much they gave up to get him!

Jerok · 08-03-2019, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wheeler08

This will go down as one of the worst draft mistakes in history, along with the Blazers skipping Jordan for Bowie (or at least that’s who I thought was involved without me looking it up). Imagine that Bears defense combined with Mahomes!

It’s not only did they trade one spot up for him, it’s how much they gave up to get him!

Nah, the worst draft mistake in history was the Bills trading away Mahomes. I'm not sure how Bill's fans sleep at night.

TLO · 08-03-2019, 06:51 PM

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Nah, the worst draft mistake in history was the Bills trading away Mahomes. I'm not sure how Bill's fans sleep at night.

The Bills would have ruined Mahomes just like they ruin everything else.

**** Buffalo. And **** the Bills.

KChiefs1 · 08-03-2019, 06:51 PM

The real puzzle to me is why did Buffalo trade us their pick when they needed a QB as bad as we did?

Stupid trade for them but glad they are run by morons.

**RealSNR** · 08-03-2019, 06:51 PM

Does anybody think Dorsey and Reid settle for their 2nd choice in Watson if the Bears had been smarter and taken Mahomes? Reid said they liked him, but do you think they would have liked him enough to make the same trade? Only for Watson instead of Mahomes?

I actually say no. I think the Texans WERE desperate and would have made that trade. They might have even paid more to move up higher than 12 after the Bears took Mahomes at 2 or 3. But I don't think the Chiefs would have paid what they did for Mahomes to settle for Watson.

Makes Dorsey's ability to work the draft board and know the EXACT sweet spot of when to grab Mahomes even more remarkable.

RunKC · 08-03-2019, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Does anybody think Dorsey and Reid settle for their 2nd choice in Watson if the Bears had been smarter and taken Mahomes? Reid said they liked him, but do you think they would have liked him enough to make the same trade? Only for Watson instead of Mahomes?

I actually say no. I think the Texans WERE desperate and would have made that trade. They might have even paid more to move up higher than 12 after the Bears took Mahomes at 2 or 3. But I don't think the Chiefs would have paid what they did for Mahomes to settle for Watson.

Makes Dorsey's ability to work the draft board and know the EXACT sweet spot of when to grab Mahomes even more remarkable.

Yes Watson is very good.

He’s been damn good playing for a dumpster fire. He’s got the same terrible OL David Carr had.

BryanBusby · 08-03-2019, 07:03 PM

Lets not change things too much here. Pat needed to go to the right situation and that wasn't John Fox in Chicago (lol) or the aids fire in Buffalo.

**Tribal Warfare** · 08-03-2019, 07:24 PM

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The real puzzle to me is why did Buffalo trade us their pick when they needed a QB as bad as we did?

Stupid trade for them but glad they are run by morons.

Some NFL scouting departments believed that PMII was a raw prospect who benefitted from the Air Raid system that couldn't read defenses thus relying on his athletic gifts. thus he was rated as a 2nd to 3rd round prospect.

The articles I've read insinuated that Dorsey was on the fence drafting PMII as a 1st round pick in general.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 08-03-2019, 07:26 PM

Watson would be great under Reid too. But still nowhere near Mahomes great.

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KCUnited Cheat Death Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Land of Drincoln Casino cash: $-1621756	The Bears created a bidding war for Trubisky with themselves. The simple answer is Ryan Pace is a complete butt**ing moron. After 4.5 years of working from home in Chicago, I'm now being required to work out of an office 2-3 days a week. I'm not happy about it, but the silver lining is that I have my work station looking like a **ing shrine to Mahomes, which is soon to include a box of cereal I'm having shipped. Every time they want to get excited about Trubisky, they walk by my station and are reminded that they passed over what could've been their Aaron Rodgers (whom they hate) for Alex Smith. The looks on some of these wannabe Ditka's makes the commute halfway worth it.
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wheeler08 Veteran Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Indiana Casino cash: $4151183	This will go down as one of the worst draft mistakes in history, along with the Blazers skipping Jordan for Bowie (or at least that’s who I thought was involved without me looking it up). Imagine that Bears defense combined with Mahomes! It’s not only did they trade one spot up for him, it’s how much they gave up to get him!
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Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1539523	It does seem odd. Maybe they had inside intelligence that alerted them another team was willing to trade to #2 so they had to beat them to the punch and offer a better package to secure what they thought was LOLOL the awesomeness.. It's really the only explanation.
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