Cesar Ruiz or Kenneth Murray

ntexascardfan · 04-13-2020, 05:40 PM

If both are available at 32 who are you taking?

staylor26 · 04-13-2020, 05:43 PM

I love Ruiz, but this should be Murray in a landslide. He’s exactly what we’ve been missing at LB since DJ fell off a cliff.

Halfcan · 04-13-2020, 05:48 PM

It would great to get Mahomes a Center to protect him his entire career and then go into the Ring of Honor in fifteen years.

On the other hand, we need an LB tackling machine in the middle of this defense.

**The Franchise** · 04-13-2020, 05:49 PM

Easily Murray. Murray will help Mahomes out more than a center will. Reiter is at least serviceable.

JohnnyHammersticks · 04-13-2020, 06:27 PM

Man...tough choice, but I'd go Murray. Couldn't go wrong with either, imo.

Wilson8 · 04-13-2020, 07:14 PM

Also if the Chiefs are able to draft Kenneth Murray at 32, there will be some very good IOL available in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.

KChiefs1 · 04-13-2020, 07:59 PM

Murray

Couch-Potato · 04-14-2020, 07:11 AM

Murray

Dunerdr · 04-14-2020, 07:21 AM

I feel like you can get 90% of ruiz in round 2-3, where your only gonna get 80% of murray after murray/queen go.

Chris Meck · 04-14-2020, 08:23 AM

I love Ruiz, but I'd take Murray.

I think Ruiz will probably end up being a multiple pro-bowler.

I think Murray is more of a difference maker.

and y'all that keep saying Reiter is serviceable-nope. He's not a starter level player, not on a SB team. He's shite. Not as big a pile of shite as Wylie, but he's shite.

I think you could still nab Cushenberry in the 2nd/3rd. Maybe Biadasz in those rounds too. Or if you want to wait Nick Harris or Matt Hennessey just FIT what Reid likes to do and could be had in later rounds. They'd be more scheme specific to a Reid/Heck offensive line, and could be good here. Harris is kind of a Casey Wiegmann type, for example. That's not going to help your short yardage running game, but pulling and misdirection would be his strengths. Hennessey is similar.

Hoover · 04-14-2020, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I love Ruiz, but I'd take Murray.

I think Ruiz will probably end up being a multiple pro-bowler.

I think Murray is more of a difference maker.

and y'all that keep saying Reiter is serviceable-nope. He's not a starter level player, not on a SB team. He's shite. Not as big a pile of shite as Wylie, but he's shite.

I think you could still nab Cushenberry in the 2nd/3rd. Maybe Biadasz in those rounds too. Or if you want to wait Nick Harris or Matt Hennessey just FIT what Reid likes to do and could be had in later rounds. They'd be more scheme specific to a Reid/Heck offensive line, and could be good here. Harris is kind of a Casey Wiegmann type, for example. That's not going to help your short yardage running game, but pulling and misdirection would be his strengths. Hennessey is similar.

Same!

kccrow · 04-14-2020, 05:06 PM

I very much think Murray is going top 15 and at worst 20. That said, I'm taking him over any interior lineman if he's there with the hope he becomes a better downhill defender a la Derrick Johnson. The same goes for Queen, although I don't see Queen going quite as high and having a much higher probability to be available at 32.

BryanBusby · 04-14-2020, 05:27 PM

It's not even a debate. Murray actually looks like a first rounder.

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04-13-2020, 05:40 PM
ntexascardfan Starter Join Date: Nov 2009 Casino cash: $4854900	Cesar Ruiz or Kenneth Murray If both are available at 32 who are you taking?
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04-13-2020, 05:43 PM	#2
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04-13-2020, 05:48 PM	#3
Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	It would great to get Mahomes a Center to protect him his entire career and then go into the Ring of Honor in fifteen years. On the other hand, we need an LB tackling machine in the middle of this defense.
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04-13-2020, 05:49 PM	#4
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	Easily Murray. Murray will help Mahomes out more than a center will. Reiter is at least serviceable.
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04-13-2020, 06:27 PM	#5
JohnnyHammersticks MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chandler AZ Casino cash: $-559996	Man...tough choice, but I'd go Murray. Couldn't go wrong with either, imo.
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04-13-2020, 07:14 PM	#6
Wilson8 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $2827557	Also if the Chiefs are able to draft Kenneth Murray at 32, there will be some very good IOL available in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.
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04-13-2020, 07:59 PM	#7
KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri Casino cash: $6771021	Murray __________________
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04-14-2020, 07:11 AM	#8
Couch-Potato Simmons @ 32 > Fisher @ 1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Casino cash: $163065	Murray
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04-14-2020, 07:21 AM	#9
Dunerdr MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $-2840000	I feel like you can get 90% of ruiz in round 2-3, where your only gonna get 80% of murray after murray/queen go. __________________ Adopt-A-Chief- Rachel Santschi
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04-14-2020, 08:23 AM	#10
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $-1365090	I love Ruiz, but I'd take Murray. I think Ruiz will probably end up being a multiple pro-bowler. I think Murray is more of a difference maker. and y'all that keep saying Reiter is serviceable-nope. He's not a starter level player, not on a SB team. He's shite. Not as big a pile of shite as Wylie, but he's shite. I think you could still nab Cushenberry in the 2nd/3rd. Maybe Biadasz in those rounds too. Or if you want to wait Nick Harris or Matt Hennessey just FIT what Reid likes to do and could be had in later rounds. They'd be more scheme specific to a Reid/Heck offensive line, and could be good here. Harris is kind of a Casey Wiegmann type, for example. That's not going to help your short yardage running game, but pulling and misdirection would be his strengths. Hennessey is similar.
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04-14-2020, 05:06 PM	#12
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1270000	I very much think Murray is going top 15 and at worst 20. That said, I'm taking him over any interior lineman if he's there with the hope he becomes a better downhill defender a la Derrick Johnson. The same goes for Queen, although I don't see Queen going quite as high and having a much higher probability to be available at 32.
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04-14-2020, 05:27 PM	#13
BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3159900 VARSITY	It's not even a debate. Murray actually looks like a first rounder.
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