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Old 09-26-2021, 12:31 PM  
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player development is the issue
So many of our guys haven't evolved as players.

For as great as Pat is, he still makes the same mistakes (ie., dropping to deep, scrambling too soon, not stepping up in the pocket). He's great, but if you want to be considered in the GOAT convo you need to grow. Tom Brady and Peyton grew and developed.

CEH hasn't grown

Frank Clark has regressed

These guys either read their press clipping too much or the staff isn't doing the work they need to make sure these guys continue to grow as they achieve success.

The AFC is catching up with us and the ability to not just draft well, but develop what we get will be paramount to us being a Dynasty v. a shot in the pan.
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Old 09-26-2021, 12:38 PM   #2
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So Patrick Mahomes hasn’t evolved as a player??

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Old 09-26-2021, 12:41 PM   #3
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Drafting speaks, hardman, thornhill and ceh with our first three second rounders and a first rounder hurt.

It hurt bad
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Old 09-26-2021, 12:43 PM   #4
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Drafting speaks, hardman, thornhill and ceh with our first three second rounders and a first rounder hurt.

It hurt bad
Yep, those misses are what’s hurting this team
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Old 09-26-2021, 12:44 PM   #5
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Drafting speaks, hardman, thornhill and ceh with our first three second rounders and a first rounder hurt.

It hurt bad
So how did it hurt when we went to the ****ing Super Bowl last year and had ****ing injuries all across the offensive line?


**** you guys Veach has brought us two AFC Titles a Super Bowl and two Super Bowl appearances.



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Old 09-26-2021, 12:52 PM   #6
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Old 09-26-2021, 12:53 PM   #7
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The issue is 3 turnovers in the first half. Football is simple, turn it over,you struggle, don’t, it’s much easier. We moved the ball at will, defense played well for the circumstances, we just turned it over.
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Old 09-26-2021, 12:54 PM   #8
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So how did it hurt when we went to the ****ing Super Bowl last year and had ****ing injuries all across the offensive line?


**** you guys Veach has brought us two AFC Titles a Super Bowl and two Super Bowl appearances.



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The best players on those team were all drafted by Dorsey. It’s not hating to admit that he’s had some misses in the draft.
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I’m still waiting for Patrick to develop after winning a Super bowl
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 09-26-2021, 01:00 PM   #10
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The best players on those team were all drafted by Dorsey. It’s not hating to admit that he’s had some misses in the draft.
Getting hung up on a few misses from a super bowl winner who has drafted in the bottom of every draft is a bit much. Especially when we've barely used our late first rounders. His draft track record is outstanding considering....
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The best players on those team were all drafted by Dorsey. It’s not hating to admit that he’s had some misses in the draft.
I just don't call them misses. CEH is in his second year and still has a lot to prove but he can be a star on this offense and still can be worth the pick. He kicked ass before his injury last year so I still expect great things out of him.

I want more out of Hardman too and Thornhil but damn back to back Super Bowls and these guys are contributors.
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Old 09-26-2021, 01:03 PM   #12
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So how did it hurt when we went to the ****ing Super Bowl last year and had ****ing injuries all across the offensive line?


**** you guys Veach has brought us two AFC Titles a Super Bowl and two Super Bowl appearances.



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I'm a Veach fan, but he didn't "bring us two AFC titles and a SB win. Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid did.
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I'm a Veach fan, but he didn't "bring us two AFC titles and a SB win. Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid did.


Without Veach we would not have drafted Mahomes it's well documented.
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So Patrick Mahomes hasn’t evolved as a player??

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Next game use all your fingers and toes and count as high as you can every time Patrick does one of the three things I mentioned in my OP.
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Next game use all your fingers and toes and count as high as you can every time Patrick does one of the three things I mentioned in my OP.
GTFO with this bullshit. Is Patrick perfect? No he isn’t.

But the majority of the time he’s the sole reason the Chiefs are in the game.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

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