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Old 05-01-2021, 08:15 AM   Topic Starter
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So are Dorsey/Veach still just puppets to Andy when it comes to personnel?
People said that about Dorsey. And they DEFINITELY said that about Veach when he first got hired, given he was young and a former protege of Reid, and Dorsey had just gotten fired.

The past few offseason strategies and types of players we acquire/sign has been so remarkably different under Veach that I don't know how anybody with a real brain can convince themselves that Andy Reid is actually the one who has final say or even says, "Here, go find me these players." Yes, they collaborate, but that's what ALL NFL coach/GM relationships should do when it comes to personnel acquisition and drafting.

When has Andy as a GM in Philly EVER so aggressively completely ****ing renovated entire position groups in single offseasons? We've seen Veach do this shit twice now, once with the defense and now with the OL. When has Andy "in charge" ever done that shit?

It's what I tried to tell some of you. The Chiefs said it's a collaboration, but that the GM has the "final say." They were pretty clear about that. The draft strategy is Veach's. The draft scouting is Veach's. The free agency strategy is Veach's. The team is Veach's pretty squarely Veach's to scout and construct, and Andy's to coach.
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Old 05-01-2021, 08:23 AM   #2
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When Andy is in charge we have guys like Jason Avant and Jeremy Maclin
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Old 05-03-2021, 02:44 PM   #3
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When Andy is in charge we have guys like Jason Avant and Jeremy Maclin
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Old 05-01-2021, 08:26 AM   #4
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I mean, he's letting players dictate who we draft. It's total chaos at 1 Arrowhead with the inmates running the asylum.
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Old 05-01-2021, 09:07 AM   #5
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I mean, he's letting players dictate who we draft. It's total chaos at 1 Arrowhead with the inmates running the asylum.
It’s insane tbh and I love it. Last year Mahomes wanted CEH and Veach got him. This year Orlando brown told them to get Humphrey and they did.
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Old 05-03-2021, 05:18 PM   #6
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It’s insane tbh and I love it. Last year Mahomes wanted CEH and Veach got him. This year Orlando brown told them to get Humphrey and they did.
To be fair this is probably more common than you think with a lot of guys pushing for someone who never ends up making it here.
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Old 05-01-2021, 08:30 AM   #8
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I'm pretty sure Andy became a BV fan after he did a war dance to convince Dorsey to draft a certain QB from Texas Tech. He's probably happy to be just the HC.
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Old 05-01-2021, 09:04 AM   #9
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I'm pretty sure Andy became a BV fan after he did a war dance to convince Dorsey to draft a certain QB from Texas Tech. He's probably happy to be just the HC.
Which QB? I’m unfamiliar.
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Old 05-01-2021, 01:39 PM   #10
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Which QB? I’m unfamiliar.
I think his dad was a big league pitcher or something. Maybe the kid should have gone that way since we all know the big cash is in baseball.
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Old 05-01-2021, 09:02 AM   #11
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Andy seems to love him some MIZZOU. Drafting fairly local talent is probably smart after this strange college and drafting year.
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Old 05-01-2021, 09:14 AM   #12
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I thought Veach sold Andy on Mahomes.....

Sounded like if Veach liked someone-he was the real deal.
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Did you see Andy **** up the number of the pick about an hour ago? You tell me asshole!
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Old 05-01-2021, 02:17 PM   #14
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No! Andy enjoys being the head coach. I'm sure he likes to be in the loop, but I think he trusts in Brett Veach to find him the players that he needs.
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No! Andy enjoys being the head coach. I'm sure he likes to be in the loop, but I think he trusts in Brett Veach to find him the players that he needs.
Oh I think Andy does, considering that he went to 3 AFC Championship games, winning 2 of them in a row to go to the Super Bowl, finally winning one.
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