2023 Discount KC Crow Mock: WR in Round 1

[duncan_idaho]

Running this exercise with the Chiefs taking a WR in Round 1. Whole model is based on... what things would look like if Jalin Hyatt is available to the Chiefs at 31, and KC takes him.

So, here goes!

31: Jalin Hyatt, WR, Tennessee. Hyatt isn't a perfect prospect. There are questions about his route tree and ability to be diverse. And I'm glad there are. It's the only reason he's here for KC. With his speed and quickness, Hyatt adds some major juice to the offense.

48 (Trade up with Seattle, sending 62, 2023 4th, and a 2024 2nd for 2023 48 and a 2024 3rd). Jaelyn Duncan, OT, Maryland. My ideal draft in this case is offense-heavy early, nabbing a WR and a RT. Depending on what Wright's stock does, taking him here would make sense if available (he was in this mock, but I didn't believe he would be come draft day, so I didn't take Wright).

Duncan has all the athletic tools and needs to be coached up. Good prospect for KC. And what a name!

82 (Trade up with Tampa, sending #95 and a 6th for #82). Mazi Smith, DT, Michigan. Smith's stock is hard to place right now. But KC has found success with Michigan DL products with a character flag and gets a cheap one here.

122 Brendon Cox, Jr. DE, FLorida. Cox is a twitchy, sturdy DE who has some versatility to his game as well as good quickness and speed off the edge.

And I'll stop tracking there, because we're still early in mock draft season and the lists get silly as you get into 3rd day picks.

This draft lets me take an economical approach at WR and OT in free agency, allowing prioritization on re-signing Orlando Brown and extending Sneed and Jones.

WR: Valdes-Scantling, Moore, Toney, Hyatt is your top 4 in this spot. Maybe you take a low-cost shot at D.J. Chark, but definitely bring back Justin Watson.

This officially lets you move on from Mecole Hardman, though.

OT: Brown, Jr-Thuney-Humphrey-Smith-Duncan is the goal. Need some depth at T (I still like Andre Dillard as an option there).

So. Thoughts?

[O.city]

I like Duncan in round 2. I would really like Dillard as a buy low RT option as well.

[DJ's left nut]

Sold.

[Couch-Potato]

Love the first 3 rounds here! I've been tinkering with a Jalin Hyatt in the first round mock myself, he just feels like a chief! Mazi also really feels like a chief to me somehow.

[Palangi]

Not a fan of Duncan. Weighing in at only 298 at the senior bowl. And only 33” arms. He gets pushed back way too easy.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Palangi

Not a fan of Duncan. Weighing in at only 298 at the senior bowl. And only 33” arms. He gets pushed back way too easy.

I’m not locked in on him. I think there are several tackles who could fall in that range. He’s just the one I took this time.


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[kccrow]

Hahahaha. If you're discounting me it's kind of like playing the penny slot machine.

As for your mock, I love the approach but not so sure about the entirety of the players.

Lord knows that Jalin Hyatt is my favorite WR in this draft for the Chiefs. I just don't think he's as low of a pick as many of the mock machines and draft analysts have him. He's going to absolutely run in the low 4.3's and then the world will explode and he'll suddenly be a top-15 prospect. I'd just about take that to the bank, if I had anything in it. He is basically the same guy as Jameson Williams. Actually, I think he catches the ball better than Williams. Anyhow, semantics...

So yes, if Hyatt is there at pick 31 there are only two players in this draft I'd run to the podium over him and those two are probably going in the top 5.

As for Duncan... You know I like Duncan, whether it's the one from Maryland or the one from Idaho. That being said, the one from Maryland is a guy I saw play RT and it was a bonafide disaster. If I'm drafting Duncan it's with every intent for him to be the LT.

There are a bunch of other prospects at RT to look for in the 2nd and 3rd and Duncan's just not that guy for me. I've openly lauded Darnell Wright early after much more study. The next guy on my list at this point? Wanya Morris from Oklahoma. I really love this kid. He was a late declaration but he's hella good. He put on a clinic at the Senior Bowl. He's been touted as a late 3rd or early 4th but I have him as a mid-to-late 2nd.

As for Mazi Smith, man if I don't see the second coming of Brandon Williams with this kid. I'm talking about the dominant NT in his prime Williams. I'm worried about the felony concealed charge and 12 months of probation. I'll spoiler my in-depth here in case someone wants to skip the next paragraph of my book.

Spoiler!

Michigan does NOT **** around with this stuff. He best not **** up again doing anything. Not only that, he can make excuses all he wants about his application but he knows damned well that he shouldn't have had that weapon in that manner in his vehicle. Ann Arbor isn't all that dangerous either so what was he doing with it? Slow-riding his way through Ypsilanti to Detroit doing???? That's my only logic on the ordeal and that scares me. He certainly wasn't likely to be traveling North to his hometown of Grand Rapids with a loaded pistol and extra clips. Hopefully, he's a kid that just made a really stupid mistake trying to be "cool," and not the other outcome.

Onto Brenton Cox... I'm not on board. Cox got kicked off of TWO SEC teams for multiple disciplinary issues. You have to really **** up to get kicked off of any SEC team, much less do it twice. **** Cox, he's a moron, talent be damned. I'm fairly confident the NFL will follow suit. If he's drafted I think it's going to be late and I would not be at all surprised if he ends up a UDFA. You just can't explain away that level of stupid in interviews, sorry not sorry.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Hahahaha. If you're discounting me it's kind of like playing the penny slot machine.

As for your mock, I love the approach but not so sure about the entirety of the players.

Lord knows that Jalin Hyatt is my favorite WR in this draft for the Chiefs. I just don't think he's as low of a pick as many of the mock machines and draft analysts have him. He's going to absolutely run in the low 4.3's and then the world will explode and he'll suddenly be a top-15 prospect. I'd just about take that to the bank, if I had anything in it. He is basically the same guy as Jameson Williams. Actually, I think he catches the ball better than Williams. Anyhow, semantics...

So yes, if Hyatt is there at pick 31 there are only two players in this draft I'd run to the podium over him and those two are probably going in the top 5.

As for Duncan... You know I like Duncan, whether it's the one from Maryland or the one from Idaho. That being said, the one from Maryland is a guy I saw play RT and it was a bonafide disaster. If I'm drafting Duncan it's with every intent for him to be the LT.

There are a bunch of other prospects at RT to look for in the 2nd and 3rd and Duncan's just not that guy for me. I've openly lauded Darnell Wright early after much more study. The next guy on my list at this point? Wanya Morris from Oklahoma. I really love this kid. He was a late declaration but he's hella good. He put on a clinic at the Senior Bowl. He's been touted as a late 3rd or early 4th but I have him as a mid-to-late 2nd.

As for Mazi Smith, man if I don't see the second coming of Branden Williams with this kid. I'm talking about the dominant NT in his prime Williams. I'm worried about the felony concealed charge and 12 months of probation. I'll spoiler my in-depth here in case someone wants to skip the next paragraph of my book.

Spoiler!

Michigan does NOT **** around with this stuff. He best not **** up again doing anything. Not only that, he can make excuses all he wants about his application but he knows damned well that he shouldn't have had that weapon in that manner in his vehicle. Ann Arbor isn't all that dangerous either so what was he doing with it? Slow-riding his way through Ypsilanti to Detroit doing???? That's my only logic on the ordeal and that scares me. He certainly wasn't likely to be traveling North to his hometown of Grand Rapids with a loaded pistol and extra clips. Hopefully, he's a kid that just made a really stupid mistake trying to be "cool," and not the other outcome.

Onto Brenton Cox... I'm not on board. Cox got kicked off of TWO SEC teams for multiple disciplinary issues. You have to really **** up to get kicked off of any SEC team, much less do it twice. **** Cox, he's a moron, talent be damned. I'm fairly confident the NFL will follow suit. If he's drafted I think it's going to be late and I would not be at all surprised if he ends up a UDFA. You just can't explain away that level of stupid in interviews, sorry not sorry.

Yeah, the dream draft as it stands would be to nab both Tennessee products, but I’m not sold on the feasibility of Wright lasting until pick 50.

Probably not smart to take TWO character risks in the same draft. Good call on Cox.

[staylor26]

Umm, those first 3 picks, yes please?

[Direckshun]

Duncan may not be stereotypical but he looked fantastic at the Senior Bowl practices. Seems like a perfect fit.

Hyatt makes sense for the Chiefs, but I'd love to know what the board looked like in your hypothetical universe, because I can't envision a board where he's the top talent on deck at #31.

I will also mention!

I personally think it's highly unlikely this team makes all 11-12 picks, so multiple trade ups make all kind of sense for this team.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Duncan may not be stereotypical but he looked fantastic at the Senior Bowl practices. Seems like a perfect fit.

Hyatt makes sense for the Chiefs, but I'd love to know what the board looked like in your hypothetical universe, because I can't envision a board where he's the top talent on deck at #31.

I will also mention!

I personally think it's highly unlikely this team makes all 11-12 picks, so multiple trade ups make all kind of sense for this team.

He was not the top player on the board on the draft tool I used (PFN), but I don't trust their board.

Notable names available were:

Jahmyr Gibbs
Josh Downs
Anton Harrison
Rashee Rice
Anudike-Uzomah
Siaki Ika
Darnell Washinton
JL Skinner
Zay Flowers
Tuli Tuipulotu
Nolan Smith
Darnell Wright
Lukas Van Ness (like I said, I think the PFN board is WAY off)

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

He was not the top player on the board on the draft tool I used (PFN), but I don't trust their board.

Notable names available were:

Jahmyr Gibbs
Josh Downs
Anton Harrison
Rashee Rice
Anudike-Uzomah
Siaki Ika
Darnell Washinton
JL Skinner
Zay Flowers
Tuli Tuipulotu
Nolan Smith
Darnell Wright
Lukas Van Ness (like I said, I think the PFN board is WAY off)

Other than Harrison and Wright, nobody that I would really consider over Hyatt.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

He was not the top player on the board on the draft tool I used (PFN), but I don't trust their board.

Notable names available were:

Jahmyr Gibbs
Josh Downs
Anton Harrison
Rashee Rice
Anudike-Uzomah
Siaki Ika
Darnell Washinton
JL Skinner
Zay Flowers
Tuli Tuipulotu
Nolan Smith
Darnell Wright
Lukas Van Ness (like I said, I think the PFN board is WAY off)

Nice! Thanks!

So of that, there's a two players we can cross off altogether as not fitting our scheme at all: Nolan Smith is a 3-4 OLB, and Tuli Tuipulotu is probably a 3-4 DE. We also have no 1st-round-caliber need for a RB, for a TE. (Some would say safety, but not me.) So cross off Jaymyr Gibbs, Darnell Washington.

I also am going to take an executive decision to remove players who don't belong in the 1st round (or 2nd round) conversation here thanks only to my personal views on the player. So Josh Downs, JL Skinner, and in my minority opinion, Lukas Van Ness.

That leaves us with:

WR Rashee Rice
WR Jalin Hyatt
WR Zay Flowers
OT Anton Harrison
OT Darnell Wright
DT Siaki Ika
DE Felix Anudike-Uzomah

This is a complicated board.

The top tier talents here are Flowers, Rice, and Harrison. Flowers is probably the best talent here, but is somewhat repetitive with Toney and Moore on the roster. Rice and Harrison (at LT) are perfect fits, as is Wright and Hyatt, but they're not on the same talent level. Ika and Anudike-Uzomah are both 2nd tier talents of these candidates, and neither fits superbly well with what we want to do. Harrison is not a great fit at RT if we keep Brown at LT.

I'm going to assume that we keep Brown for another full contract, so Harrison doesn't work for me. If I want a RT, I'll draft Wright. If I want a WR: Hyatt is a really good X WR, Rice is a great Y WR, and Flowers is a great Z WR.

My choice, personally, is between Rice and Flowers. I'd probably opt for Rice, but I mean it's pretty close to 50/50 for me.

[RunKC]

Could be wrong but I don’t think Duncan is gonna be a 2nd rd pick. Everything I saw about him at the Senior Bowl was people raving about his traits and athleticism.

Those guys seem to get drafted really early

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Could be wrong but I don’t think Duncan is gonna be a 2nd rd pick. Everything I saw about him at the Senior Bowl was people raving about his traits and athleticism.

Those guys seem to get drafted really early

Outside of QB, the league is probably most desperate for tackles.

If you've got traits, you've got the ability to be overdrafted, no question.