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O.city · 02-09-2023, 09:45 AM

#Commanders DE Chase Young, former 2nd overall pick in the 2020 Draft, isn't guaranteed to have his 5th-year option picked up by the team, according to @michaelpRTD

The option is worth $17.4 million.

Young has only 1.5 sacks the past 2 seasons, and missed games due to injuries pic.twitter.com/0rY7DMhfBM
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) February 9, 2023

Say they don't wanna pick up his option and have decided to keep Sweat and Payne and move Young.

Would you send our first this year and a 2nd next year for that?

**The Franchise** · 02-09-2023, 09:49 AM

It's not a question of would I...it's a question of would they accept it?

You'd be banking that his injuries aren't lingering and that he's going to be worth the contract moving forward...but yeah I would.

Not sure this team can afford two mega contracts on the defensive line though.

O.city · 02-09-2023, 09:53 AM

If you did this, could you pick up the 5th year option?

You could have him for 10 mil and then 17 mil then you'd have a potential tag year or an extension.

Direckshun · 02-09-2023, 09:56 AM

I just absolutely can't make it work financially.

With all the injuries, I'd be willing to invest a 2nd rounder. Few teams manage team health like the Chiefs. And Young is an absolute pistol of a personality. He's hungry as hell and pairing him up with personalities like Clark and Jones would give the front of the line so much attitude.

But the risk, of course, is that he walks the following offseason. And I'm nervous investing a high pick in that. I wish there was a way you can extend him but that's not what Young wants -- he wants to play on his contract as-is, explode for a year, and get paid.

Direckshun · 02-09-2023, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

If you did this, could you pick up the 5th year option?

You could have him for 10 mil and then 17 mil then you'd have a potential tag year or an extension.

I would, but I'm loathe to deprive Veach of draft picks. I'd trade a 2nd for that, but I'd like the Commanders to attach a 5th to him on the way back. Veach is in the zone.

O.city · 02-09-2023, 09:59 AM

You could approach him with a contract extension. He wouldn't sign it I doubt, but you could take 2 tag numbers and the 5th year option add a bit and come to him with it.

**The Franchise** · 02-09-2023, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I just absolutely can't make it work financially.

With all the injuries, I'd be willing to invest a 2nd rounder. Few teams manage team health like the Chiefs. And Young is an absolute pistol of a personality. He's hungry as hell and pairing him up with personalities like Clark and Jones would give the front of the line so much attitude.

But the risk, of course, is that he walks the following offseason. And I'm nervous investing a high pick in that. I wish there was a way you can extend him but that's not what Young wants -- he wants to play on his contract as-is, explode for a year, and get paid.

With Clark and Jones? The only way this is working is if you just straight cut Clark.

O.city · 02-09-2023, 10:08 AM

Clark is gone. Why are we even talking about this?

**The Franchise** · 02-09-2023, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

If you did this, could you pick up the 5th year option?

You could have him for 10 mil and then 17 mil then you'd have a potential tag year or an extension.

It wouldn't be $10 million though, right? Washington would be on the hook for his prorated bonus. That means his 2023 cap hit for the Chiefs would be roughly $5.5 million.

2023 - $5.5 million
2024 - $17.5 million

By that time, you're probably looking at Jones moving towards the end of his extension (if Veach goes 3 years). Thuney is probably gone because of his cap hit. Kelce will be 36 and have a cap hit of almost $20 million. Not sure if he'll just retire at that point...or how long he wants to play.

O.city · 02-09-2023, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

It wouldn't be $10 million though, right? Washington would be on the hook for his prorated bonus. That means his 2023 cap hit for the Chiefs would be roughly $5.5 million.

2023 - $5.5 million
2024 - $17.5 million

By that time, you're probably looking at Jones moving towards the end of his extension (if Veach goes 3 years). Thuney is probably gone because of his cap hit. Kelce will be 36 and have a cap hit of almost $20 million. Not sure if he'll just retire at that point...or how long he wants to play.

Yeah, I can't imagine you're extending Kelce at that point and Thuney is probably gone.

Money wise they could make it work.

**The Franchise** · 02-09-2023, 10:22 AM

It would be interesting to see what compensation they would want or what kind of contract he would be looking for. He only had 7.5 sacks his rookie year. Sure, he won Defensive Rookie of the Year but that isn't worth much on the field. And with the talent that Washington has on the defensive line, you would think he would have looked better.

RunKC · 02-09-2023, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Clark is gone. Why are we even talking about this?

Someone is going to be very dissapointed

O.city · 02-09-2023, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Someone is going to be very dissapointed

They made a big push about getting younger and faster on defense, they need cap space and Clark is about to be 30. They can double their cap space by letting him go.

What is the benefit of bringing him back?

RunKC · 02-09-2023, 10:29 AM

Spags loves the guy. We just had this conversation last year and everyone hated it and now look at the results? I just don’t think they’re gonna let him go yet.

Also, I don’t want this guy unless it’s a small contract on a heavily incentivized contract. He’s never played a full season. He’s only played in 12 games the last 2 years as well.

Yikes

O.city · 02-09-2023, 10:32 AM

Spags loved Sorenson and Nieman and Mathieu.

What does that have to do with anything? He's 30 and they can save alot of money letting him walk. This isnt' a hard discussion guys.

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-695936	In the "will never happen but it's fun to dream" discussion #Commanders DE Chase Young, former 2nd overall pick in the 2020 Draft, isn't guaranteed to have his 5th-year option picked up by the team, according to @michaelpRTD The option is worth $17.4 million. Young has only 1.5 sacks the past 2 seasons, and missed games due to injuries pic.twitter.com/0rY7DMhfBM — Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) February 9, 2023 Say they don't wanna pick up his option and have decided to keep Sweat and Payne and move Young. Would you send our first this year and a 2nd next year for that?
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02-09-2023, 09:49 AM	#2
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	It's not a question of would I...it's a question of would they accept it? You'd be banking that his injuries aren't lingering and that he's going to be worth the contract moving forward...but yeah I would. Not sure this team can afford two mega contracts on the defensive line though.
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02-09-2023, 09:53 AM	#3
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-695936	If you did this, could you pick up the 5th year option? You could have him for 10 mil and then 17 mil then you'd have a potential tag year or an extension.
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02-09-2023, 09:56 AM	#4
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	I just absolutely can't make it work financially. With all the injuries, I'd be willing to invest a 2nd rounder. Few teams manage team health like the Chiefs. And Young is an absolute pistol of a personality. He's hungry as hell and pairing him up with personalities like Clark and Jones would give the front of the line so much attitude. But the risk, of course, is that he walks the following offseason. And I'm nervous investing a high pick in that. I wish there was a way you can extend him but that's not what Young wants -- he wants to play on his contract as-is, explode for a year, and get paid.
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02-09-2023, 09:59 AM	#6
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-695936	You could approach him with a contract extension. He wouldn't sign it I doubt, but you could take 2 tag numbers and the 5th year option add a bit and come to him with it.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-695936	Clark is gone. Why are we even talking about this?
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02-09-2023, 10:22 AM	#11
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	It would be interesting to see what compensation they would want or what kind of contract he would be looking for. He only had 7.5 sacks his rookie year. Sure, he won Defensive Rookie of the Year but that isn't worth much on the field. And with the talent that Washington has on the defensive line, you would think he would have looked better.
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02-09-2023, 10:29 AM	#14
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1600389	Spags loves the guy. We just had this conversation last year and everyone hated it and now look at the results? I just don’t think they’re gonna let him go yet. Also, I don’t want this guy unless it’s a small contract on a heavily incentivized contract. He’s never played a full season. He’s only played in 12 games the last 2 years as well. Yikes __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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02-09-2023, 10:32 AM	#15
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-695936	Spags loved Sorenson and Nieman and Mathieu. What does that have to do with anything? He's 30 and they can save alot of money letting him walk. This isnt' a hard discussion guys.
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