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Old 04-25-2023, 09:23 AM  
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Simms has us taking Murphy
He also has Van Ness falling to 29 and McDonald to Philly @30.

I’d love a move up for Van Ness if he gets past the Chargers in his mock.
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Old 04-25-2023, 09:24 AM   #2
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Van Ness or Murphy and I'd be good with that first round.
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Old 04-25-2023, 09:34 AM   #3
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It's weird as hell people have gotten so high on McDonald.
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Old 04-25-2023, 09:44 AM   #4
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It's weird as hell people have gotten so high on McDonald.
He's tough as nails and has a great skillset. He's got Pro Bowl upside.

I think it's nuts people are crazy about Murphy as anything but a bottom-of-the-first guy. Murphy may never make a Pro Bowl but he's going to give you 8-9 sacks a season for a decade. He's going to hit the ground running, too.
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Old 04-25-2023, 09:45 AM   #5
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It's weird as hell people have gotten so high on McDonald.
I think if you run a 3-4 he's a guy that's a really good fit because his deficiencies against the run that will be likely in the NFL right out the gate can be masked a bit. He's one of the top few pure pass rushers in this class.
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Old 04-25-2023, 09:49 AM   #6
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I think if you run a 3-4 he's a guy that's a really good fit because his deficiencies against the run that will be likely in the NFL right out the gate can be masked a bit. He's one of the top few pure pass rushers in this class.
I guess I'm probably an outlier here.....but give me the guy that can really get after the passer and I'll figure out the run decencies.

Seriously, he might struggle against the run....in a passing league. I don't think I really care that much?
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Old 04-25-2023, 09:54 AM   #7
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McDonald is one of the freaks in this class that plays like a freak.

He's good.
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Old 04-25-2023, 09:58 AM   #8
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It's weird as hell people have gotten so high on McDonald.
It's his advanced pass rushing metrics. He has some of the best analytics on PFF, pretty sure they gave him a 90+ pass rushing grade and 20%+ win rate for last season...My subscription ended exactly today so I cannot verify, but that's what I recall changing my opinion of him.

I'd be very very happy with Murphy, probably my 1st or 2nd choice in the draft for our 1st along with OT Wright. McDonald might be the only other DE I like in the 1st currently but it'd be likely he only gets in the game on passing downs with Omenihu in-house.
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Old 04-25-2023, 10:00 AM   #9
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I feel like im going to be haunted by not saying "Will McDonald" in the Draft prediction thread.
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Old 04-25-2023, 10:04 AM   #10
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I'd be stoked for Murphy.
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It's weird as hell people have gotten so high on McDonald.
I think he makes a lot of sense for a team like the Seahawks if you believe the rumor that they are going back to the D they ran 10 years ago.
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I feel like im going to be haunted by not saying "Will McDonald" in the Draft prediction thread.
Yeah, putting him across from Karlaftis seems ideal to me. What am I missing?
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Old 04-25-2023, 10:19 AM   #13
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I think if you run a 3-4 he's a guy that's a really good fit because his deficiencies against the run that will be likely in the NFL right out the gate can be masked a bit. He's one of the top few pure pass rushers in this class.
No, no he's not. McDonald plays like a defensive end trying to stand up when he does that. He doesn't show fluidity to legit play standing at this time. He also has never gained weight in 5 years so the idea he'll just get bigger than 240 is wishful thinking.

To me he is a situation rusher and do you really want to use a 1st round pick on a role player? He also is not a schematic fit at all with the Chiefs so...
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Yeah, putting him across from Karlaftis seems ideal to me. What am I missing?
Undersized for this Defense. Would be more of a SAM than Edge.

He would fit as a LEO.
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Yeah, putting him across from Karlaftis seems ideal to me. What am I missing?
In the Chiefs defense he could get absolutely destroyed in the run game, with what they ask of the ends he wouldn't hold up at all. Shit at this point I'm not sure NFL TE's couldn't handle him in the run game.

You're taking a dime pass rusher that is 24 with a 1st round pick.
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