Mock (11/30)

Direckshun · 11-30-2023, 02:32 PM

Assumptions:

1. The Chiefs go on to have a good, quality season and will be drafting somewhere between 30 and 32. HC Andy Reid and GM Brett Veach are retained for the coming season.

2. The Chiefs sign DT Chris Jones to a 3 year, $84m deal with various outs.

3. The Chiefs tag CB L'Jarius Sneed and trade him to your mom's favorite team for a 1st round pick and a conditional 2025 selection.

4. The Chiefs cut WR Marquez Valdez-Scantling, OT Lucas Niang.

5. The Chiefs extend S Justin Reid 2 years, $22m.

6. The Chiefs re-sign LB Drue Tranquill 2 years, $17m.

7. The Chiefs bring back the following players on minimal deals: TE Jody Fortson, OG Nick Allegretti, LB Jack Cochrane, DT Matt Dickerson, CB Nazeeh Johnson, S Mike Edwards, LS James Winchester

8. The Chiefs let walk: QB Blaine Gabbert, RB Jerrick McKinnon, RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire, WR Mecole Hardman, WR Richie James, TE Blake Bell, OT Donovan Smith, OT Prince Tega Wanogho, OG Mike Caliendo, DT Derrick Nnadi, DT Tershawn Wharton, DE Mike Danna, DE Malik Herring, LB Willie Gay Jr., P Tommy Townsend

9. The Chiefs sign the following free agents: QB Jacoby Brissett (Commanders), RB Devin Singletary (Texans), WR Curtis Samuel (Commanders), DT Michael Pierce (Ravens), LB Jacob Phillips (Browns)

10. The Chiefs' conditional 7th rounder they traded to the Texans for CB Lonnie Johnson, Jr. in 2022 doesn't activate.

11. The Draft:

1 (Sneed). OT Taliese Fuaga, Oregon
1. WR Xavier Worthy, Texas
2. DE Jack Sawyer, Ohio State
3. RB Braelon Allen, Wisconsin
4. OG/C Drake Nugent, Michigan
5 (Cowboys). CB Fentrell Cypress II, Florida State
5 (compensatory). RB MarShawn Lloyd, USC
5 (compensatory). TE Ben Sinnott, Kansas State
7. P Tory Taylor, Iowa

The roster:

QB: Mahomes, Brissett
RB: Pacheco, Singletary, Allen, Lloyd

WR: Samuels, Rice, Worthy, Watson, Toney, Moore
TE: Kelce, Fortson, Gray, Sinnott

LT: Morris vs. Fuaga
LG: Thuney, Allegretti
C: Humphrey, Allegretti
RG: Smith, Nugent
RT: Taylor, Morris

DE: Omenihu, Sawyer, Thompson
DT: Jones, Dickerson
DT: Pierce, Ferrell, Coburn
DE: Karlaftis, Anudike-Uzomah

WLB: Tranquill, Phillips
MLB: Bolton, Tranquill
SLB: Chenal, Cochrane

CB: McDuffie, Williams, Watson, Johnson, Jones, Cypress
S: Reid, Cook, Edwards, Conner

K: Butker
P: Taylor
LS: Winchester

Nightfyre · 11-30-2023, 02:56 PM

When I look at this offseason mock, I feel like the chiefs would be worse next year than this year. I haven't tried piecing next year together, though, so maybe it's a little inevitable.

ntexascardfan · 11-30-2023, 03:04 PM

If we are trading Sneed for a first round pick, we better be getting something out of the draft better than someone in competition with Wanya Morris.

TambaBerry · 11-30-2023, 04:15 PM

No Devin Neal so terrible mock

Couch-Potato · 11-30-2023, 05:27 PM

I feel like we're overpaying Tranquill pretty substantially here.

I like the CB Cypress pick!

Not my favorite, but good work!

iSavedLatin · 11-30-2023, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

I feel like we're overpaying Tranquill pretty substantially here.

I like the CB Cypress pick!

Not my favorite, but good work!

Tranquill overpay and I don't think we're getting Jones for under $30.

I'm also not sure we'd get a mid-1st for Sneed.

JPH83 · 12-01-2023, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iSavedLatin

Tranquill overpay and I don't think we're getting Jones for under $30.

I'm also not sure we'd get a mid-1st for Sneed.

Think that'd be my evaluation too. I think we get Tranquill for less and he'll want to stay. Sneed I dont think you get more than a decent 2nd round pick, to be honest I'd probably gamble on that and try and get a replacement CB with that or an OT. I'm not mad keen on endless developmental OTs but I can't see much of a choice.

JPH83 · 12-01-2023, 02:01 AM

Should say I'm not all in on some of those picks, definitely not 2 RBs. But aside from concerns at LT I actually do think that's a better roster than this year's.

ntexascardfan · 12-01-2023, 11:13 AM

Why not take a top WR with the first pick and trade out of the first with our second pick to draft a guy like T'Vondre Sweat?

kccrow · 12-01-2023, 12:34 PM

No ****ing way would I spend a top 17-ish pick on a RT when we need a LT. I don't dislike him, but not a chance I'd blow that kind of pick. Maybe I'd spend the late 1st on him if we didn't have a RT we have to pay for a couple of seasons. And no, I'm not a believer in this move captain penalty flag to LT nonsense. Fuaga is not a LT to me. I know people like to think the two are nearly equivalent these days, but I'm not in that group. More athleticism is needed at LT than RT. They also aren't as easily interchangeable as people like to believe.

No way would I spend a 2nd round pick on Jack Sawyer and I'm a Buckeyes fan. Not that he isn't a nice player, but that's way too high for him IMO. Maybe a 3rd. He just doesn't generate enough pressure for me. Solid base end that might be a Smoot type.

Can I ask what your hard-on is this year for two RBs in the draft and why one needs to come on day 2? I swear every mock from you has had the same thing. What makes you think Veach would do that?

There's a few picks in there I like. Worthy is okay. I like the Michigan guy but he's a bit shorter than Reid normally employs. Cypress is solid.

I don't hate any player, really, I just think this is grossly out of proportion to what I'd see Veach doing this offseason. A RT in the mid-1st, 2 RBs with one on day 2, a DE that doesn't get home very often, and short OG isn't likely to move the needle a whole bunch if you just read it from the outside looking in.

AdolfOliverBush · 12-01-2023, 12:54 PM

Jones won't sign that contract, and it looks like too many DL leaving and not being replaced.

**LoneWolf** · 12-01-2023, 01:05 PM

KC has a young 1,000 yd. back on the roster.

Direckshun--better sign a free agent back and use a second day pick and a third day pick on a running back.

****ing stupid waste of draft resources. This isn't 1985 dipshit. We don't need a stable of running backs so we can run the ball 40 times a game.

O.city · 12-01-2023, 01:27 PM

I'm not necessarily opposed to a RB in the 3rd round but it needs to be a Kamara type that can play some WR.

**The Franchise** · 12-01-2023, 01:41 PM

Fuaga is a RT only. Where exactly is he going to play?

Direckshun · 12-01-2023, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Fuaga is a RT only. Where exactly is he going to play?

Taylor is cuttable after 2024.

11-30-2023, 02:32 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2123447	Mock (11/30) Assumptions: 1. The Chiefs go on to have a good, quality season and will be drafting somewhere between 30 and 32. HC Andy Reid and GM Brett Veach are retained for the coming season. 2. The Chiefs sign DT Chris Jones to a 3 year, $84m deal with various outs. 3. The Chiefs tag CB L'Jarius Sneed and trade him to your mom's favorite team for a 1st round pick and a conditional 2025 selection. 4. The Chiefs cut WR Marquez Valdez-Scantling, OT Lucas Niang. 5. The Chiefs extend S Justin Reid 2 years, $22m. 6. The Chiefs re-sign LB Drue Tranquill 2 years, $17m. 7. The Chiefs bring back the following players on minimal deals: TE Jody Fortson, OG Nick Allegretti, LB Jack Cochrane, DT Matt Dickerson, CB Nazeeh Johnson, S Mike Edwards, LS James Winchester 8. The Chiefs let walk: QB Blaine Gabbert, RB Jerrick McKinnon, RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire, WR Mecole Hardman, WR Richie James, TE Blake Bell, OT Donovan Smith, OT Prince Tega Wanogho, OG Mike Caliendo, DT Derrick Nnadi, DT Tershawn Wharton, DE Mike Danna, DE Malik Herring, LB Willie Gay Jr., P Tommy Townsend 9. The Chiefs sign the following free agents: QB Jacoby Brissett (Commanders), RB Devin Singletary (Texans), WR Curtis Samuel (Commanders), DT Michael Pierce (Ravens), LB Jacob Phillips (Browns) 10. The Chiefs' conditional 7th rounder they traded to the Texans for CB Lonnie Johnson, Jr. in 2022 doesn't activate. 11. The Draft: 1 (Sneed). OT Taliese Fuaga, Oregon 1. WR Xavier Worthy, Texas 2. DE Jack Sawyer, Ohio State 3. RB Braelon Allen, Wisconsin 4. OG/C Drake Nugent, Michigan 5 (Cowboys). CB Fentrell Cypress II, Florida State 5 (compensatory). RB MarShawn Lloyd, USC 5 (compensatory). TE Ben Sinnott, Kansas State 7. P Tory Taylor, Iowa The roster: QB: Mahomes, Brissett RB: Pacheco, Singletary, Allen, Lloyd WR: Samuels, Rice, Worthy, Watson, Toney, Moore TE: Kelce, Fortson, Gray, Sinnott LT: Morris vs. Fuaga LG: Thuney, Allegretti C: Humphrey, Allegretti RG: Smith, Nugent RT: Taylor, Morris DE: Omenihu, Sawyer, Thompson DT: Jones, Dickerson DT: Pierce, Ferrell, Coburn DE: Karlaftis, Anudike-Uzomah WLB: Tranquill, Phillips MLB: Bolton, Tranquill SLB: Chenal, Cochrane CB: McDuffie, Williams, Watson, Johnson, Jones, Cypress S: Reid, Cook, Edwards, Conner K: Butker P: Taylor LS: Winchester
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11-30-2023, 02:56 PM	#2
Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $1368849	When I look at this offseason mock, I feel like the chiefs would be worse next year than this year. I haven't tried piecing next year together, though, so maybe it's a little inevitable.
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11-30-2023, 03:04 PM	#3
ntexascardfan Starter Join Date: Nov 2009 Casino cash: $5004900	If we are trading Sneed for a first round pick, we better be getting something out of the draft better than someone in competition with Wanya Morris.
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11-30-2023, 04:15 PM	#4
TambaBerry MVP Join Date: Jan 2013 Casino cash: $-1344459	No Devin Neal so terrible mock
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11-30-2023, 05:27 PM	#5
Couch-Potato Simmons @ 32 > Fisher @ 1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Casino cash: $283065	I feel like we're overpaying Tranquill pretty substantially here. I like the CB Cypress pick! Not my favorite, but good work!
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12-01-2023, 02:01 AM	#8
JPH83 Veteran Join Date: Feb 2021 Casino cash: $-209600	Should say I'm not all in on some of those picks, definitely not 2 RBs. But aside from concerns at LT I actually do think that's a better roster than this year's.
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12-01-2023, 11:13 AM	#9
ntexascardfan Starter Join Date: Nov 2009 Casino cash: $5004900	Why not take a top WR with the first pick and trade out of the first with our second pick to draft a guy like T'Vondre Sweat?
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12-01-2023, 12:34 PM	#10
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1060000	No ****ing way would I spend a top 17-ish pick on a RT when we need a LT. I don't dislike him, but not a chance I'd blow that kind of pick. Maybe I'd spend the late 1st on him if we didn't have a RT we have to pay for a couple of seasons. And no, I'm not a believer in this move captain penalty flag to LT nonsense. Fuaga is not a LT to me. I know people like to think the two are nearly equivalent these days, but I'm not in that group. More athleticism is needed at LT than RT. They also aren't as easily interchangeable as people like to believe. No way would I spend a 2nd round pick on Jack Sawyer and I'm a Buckeyes fan. Not that he isn't a nice player, but that's way too high for him IMO. Maybe a 3rd. He just doesn't generate enough pressure for me. Solid base end that might be a Smoot type. Can I ask what your hard-on is this year for two RBs in the draft and why one needs to come on day 2? I swear every mock from you has had the same thing. What makes you think Veach would do that? There's a few picks in there I like. Worthy is okay. I like the Michigan guy but he's a bit shorter than Reid normally employs. Cypress is solid. I don't hate any player, really, I just think this is grossly out of proportion to what I'd see Veach doing this offseason. A RT in the mid-1st, 2 RBs with one on day 2, a DE that doesn't get home very often, and short OG isn't likely to move the needle a whole bunch if you just read it from the outside looking in.
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12-01-2023, 12:54 PM	#11
AdolfOliverBush Banned Join Date: Apr 2019 Casino cash: $5920400	Jones won't sign that contract, and it looks like too many DL leaving and not being replaced.
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12-01-2023, 01:05 PM	#12
LoneWolf Constable of Untruths Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wichita Casino cash: $-778916	KC has a young 1,000 yd. back on the roster. Direckshun--better sign a free agent back and use a second day pick and a third day pick on a running back. ****ing stupid waste of draft resources. This isn't 1985 dipshit. We don't need a stable of running backs so we can run the ball 40 times a game.
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12-01-2023, 01:27 PM	#13
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12-01-2023, 01:41 PM	#14
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2095047	Fuaga is a RT only. Where exactly is he going to play?
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