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Old 12-31-2024, 10:46 AM  
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Lets talk about "Flaws"

We've got a bit of down time so I thought we could have a general football discussion, specifically at the professional level and today's NFL.

We've been hearing all year "they're not the same team, they've got flaws, they're not the same as the previous ones" and it made me think, well.......yeah which team doesn't?

So I did a bit of a deep dive back on the past 10 years or so and.....which team didn't have "Flaws"? I couldn't really find one.

Just always wondered why that's a "talking point"? "They've got flaws".

Well yeah, every team does. What's the point of this being a talking point?
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Old 12-31-2024, 10:49 AM   #2
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I think it's just a new way of saying "it's bullshit luck."

But the dudes that are astute are saying, it's just like the Cheatriots. They're not going to beat themselves. You have to beat them.
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Old 12-31-2024, 10:50 AM   #3
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I think it's just a new way of saying "it's bullshit luck."

But the dudes that are astute are saying, it's just like the Cheatriots. They're not going to beat themselves. You have to beat them.
I've just never understood the reasoning for using it, knowing the league is set up to make you this way.

Will we ever see a team without flaws? I can't think of one.
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Old 12-31-2024, 10:51 AM   #4
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I think it's just a new way of saying "it's bullshit luck."

But the dudes that are astute are saying, it's just like the Cheatriots. They're not going to beat themselves. You have to beat them.
Envy? Who know I mean I point out flaws on hot chicks so I can stare at them longer without my wife getting mad.
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Old 12-31-2024, 10:52 AM   #5
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Lions were the least flawed team until injuries destroyed their defense
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Old 12-31-2024, 10:53 AM   #6
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Lions were the least flawed team until injuries destroyed their defense
Maybe.

But even then.....with that defensive backfield against the pass I dunno.
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Old 12-31-2024, 10:53 AM   #7
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Will we ever see a team without flaws? I can't think of one.
As long as the rosters consist of human beings, there will never be a team without flaws in any sport.
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RunKC brings up a great point though in that maybe we shouldn't talk about it as flawed vs unflawed but more so, least flawed.
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Old 12-31-2024, 11:02 AM   #9
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Well and the other issue is you always view your own team through a different lens than the rest of the league. Ironically the Chiefs are the lone exception right now where even non-fans are super picky about them because it's way more fun to come up with reasons they may lose than keep talking about why they probably won't.

But you're just always gonna be a lot more privy to your own team's problems while maybe ignoring another teams unless it's super glaring.
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Lions were the least flawed team until injuries destroyed their defense
Then the douches could argue depth is their flaw.

I agree with O that it's a dumbass argument.
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I've just never understood the reasoning for using it, knowing the league is set up to make you this way.

Will we ever see a team without flaws? I can't think of one.
It probably goes back to those Cheatriot ****bag teams that are so hateable.

Brady
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Elite OL
Elite Defense

They were pretty damn solid.
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Old 12-31-2024, 11:14 AM   #13
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We watch every minute of every Chiefs game, and I'm guessing on average only the highlights from other teams.

Also seems like a lot of people are conditioned to find the potential barriers, I'm guessing to keep their expectations in check, which includes both weaknesses on their own team and the strengths of other teams.

We're like crazy overprotective parents that take too much pride or embarrassment in every little thing their kid does, like they're an extension of themselves... worried they're never doing enough, keeping an eye on 'competition' and pitfalls, downplaying success because it's never enough.

And on top of all that, there's probably some Dunning Kruger wrapped up in it... if the Chiefs are doing all these things to be highly successful, then surely other teams are doing all these same things. Same concept when the Chiefs sucked and we thought they were always far closer to success than they ever were.
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Chiefs have one flaw: the refs.

The Chiefs have literally never gotten a single favorable call in any game that I’ve watched.

Should be undefeated all time IMO.
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Well and the other issue is you always view your own team through a different lens than the rest of the league. Ironically the Chiefs are the lone exception right now where even non-fans are super picky about them because it's way more fun to come up with reasons they may lose than keep talking about why they probably won't.

But you're just always gonna be a lot more privy to your own team's problems while maybe ignoring another teams unless it's super glaring.
I’d argue we are the least flawed team.

Best defense in points allowed
3rd in qb pressures/knocks downs
Best 3rd down offense
Most game winning drives

The stats don’t show it but the the last few weeks the Chiefs have turned it on. 18 sacks in last 5 games since Omenihu came back. Translates to 61 avg per season which would be 1st.
27 and 29 points with Hollywood back. Thuney and him have changed the offense. 28 PPG would be 7th in NFL.

And honestly I am not taking anyone over Andy, Mahomes and Spags. Especially at Arrowhead.

We are easily the least flawed team in the playoffs
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