Football 2025 Hall of Infamy: Round 1, Heat 2.

**Rain Man** · 05-20-2025, 09:16 PM

Pick up to EIGHT people in the poll who best meet the following voting criteria:

Brought "shame, dishonor, disgust, or embarrassment" to the sport of professional football.

The top-eight vote-getters will move on to Round 2.

**Rain Man** · 05-20-2025, 09:22 PM

We have another heat without (known) murderers. Where our murderers be at?

Oh, well. We still have some dishonorable people to vote for.

stumppy · 05-20-2025, 09:29 PM

I have no idea what most of these people are in the poll for.

**Rain Man** · 05-20-2025, 09:37 PM

Merle Hapes seems to have disappeared from history after his scandal, but here's an article to learn a bit more about him.

https://profootballresearchers.com/a.../03-An-080.pdf

Ocotillo · 05-20-2025, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumppy

I have no idea what most of these people are in the poll for.

This is why George Foster made the poll.

Chiefs4TheWin · 05-20-2025, 09:41 PM

Matt Millen was terrible at everything he did involving the game of football.

Ocotillo · 05-20-2025, 09:42 PM

Why is Dick "Night Train" Lane on here? Is he being blamed for the death of Dinah Washington?

**Rain Man** · 05-20-2025, 09:55 PM

In no particular order, my votes are:

Terrell Owens - great player on the field, but always treated his teammates terribly. Minor villainy there, but a villain nonetheless.

Merle Hapes - When I read the evidence, I come away convinced that he took money for throwing an NFL championship game. It's going to be hard to not vote him into the inaugural class of the Hall of Infamy.

Darrell Russell - Okay, they dropped the charges of him being involved in the gang rape of a drugged woman. But given his multiple failed drug tests and eventual death in a high-speed car wreck, do we really think he wasn't involved? (And wow - I had no idea that the car in his wreck was actually owned by former Chiefs Larry Parker. He'd loaned it to Russell and the car driver.)

Jim Irsay - I have no patience for rich trust fund babies who screw up their lives and then blame their problems on others.

George Foster - I still remember the video and outrage of him diving at an opponent's knee from the back and breaking his leg. Everyone in America thinks that George Foster is a cowardly cheap-shotter.

Howie Long - He's the worst kind of villain. He cheap-shots people and then tries to act like he's above doing it. And then he wears glasses on the pre-game show to try to convince people that he's thoughtful. He's a terrible person in every respect.

Matt Millen - I think Millen could go all the way in this tournament. He's dumb as a rock and is actually proud that he was a cheating cheap-shotter. Nice GM work in Detroit, you dumbf***.

Joe Don Looney - He's a minor villain, but he was a very talented guy who was so committed to being a jerk that he ruined his own career. What a waste of an opportunity.

**Rain Man** · 05-20-2025, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocotillo

Why is Dick "Night Train" Lane on here? Is he being blamed for the death of Dinah Washington?

I added him due to his propensity to clothesline ball carriers. I recognize that it was legal then so one might defend him on that account, but it was still a pretty low-class thing to do.

Interestingly, Wikipedia says that Lane's tackling was the reason for banning both clothesline tackles and grabbing the face mask.

Bump · 05-20-2025, 10:43 PM

I went with TO, Art Modell, Scott Norwood and Damnit Carl

.

Don't really know the controversy with the rest of them I guess.

**Rain Man** · 05-20-2025, 11:09 PM

One of my enduring memories of Matt Millen was him running full-tilt into the backfield on a passing play against the Chiefs, ignoring the quarterback, and trying to injure a young Joe Delaney. He knocked Delaney out of the game on a very intentional cheap shot. Screw Matt Millen. He's in the worst five all-time among dirty players.

Garcia Bronco · 05-20-2025, 11:11 PM

Where's Thomas and Simmons?
How about Rae carruth?
Ray Lewis anyone?
Mike harden
Dale Carter?
Darrell Gardner?
Daniel Snyder?
OJ Simpson?
Jim Brown?

Garcia Bronco · 05-20-2025, 11:13 PM

Steve grogan
Romanowski
Kam Chancellor
Ruggs

**Rain Man** · 05-20-2025, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Where's Thomas and Simmons?
How about Rae carruth?
Ray Lewis anyone?
Mike harden
Dale Carter?
Darrell Gardner?
Daniel Snyder?
OJ Simpson?
Jim Brown?

This is just one heat. Stay tuned for the entire tournament.

**ptlyon** · 05-21-2025, 07:00 AM

Really not sure how Percy snow made the list. He just had an unfortunate accident.

View Poll Results: Vote for UP TO 8 per the definition in the thread.
Terrell Owens	18	41.86%
Merle Hapes	8	18.60%
Darrell Russell	10	23.26%
Jim Irsay	21	48.84%
Night Train Lane	1	2.33%
Art Modell	31	72.09%
The person who does the Viking horn sound effect at Vikings games	8	18.60%
George Foster	7	16.28%
Scott Norwood	13	30.23%
Percy Snow	6	13.95%
Howie Long	16	37.21%
Matt Millen	22	51.16%
Carl Peterson	14	32.56%
Glenn Dorsey	7	16.28%
Joe Don Looney	4	9.30%
All of these are good ambassadors for the sport.	1	2.33%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 43. You may not vote on this poll

05-20-2025, 09:16 PM
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05-20-2025, 09:22 PM	#2
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-772449 VARSITY	We have another heat without (known) murderers. Where our murderers be at? Oh, well. We still have some dishonorable people to vote for. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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05-20-2025, 09:37 PM	#4
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-772449 VARSITY	Merle Hapes seems to have disappeared from history after his scandal, but here's an article to learn a bit more about him. https://profootballresearchers.com/a.../03-An-080.pdf __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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Chiefs4TheWin Veteran Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hollidaysburg, PA Casino cash: $1122783	Matt Millen was terrible at everything he did involving the game of football.
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Ocotillo Veteran Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Red state Casino cash: $0	Why is Dick "Night Train" Lane on here? Is he being blamed for the death of Dinah Washington?
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05-20-2025, 09:55 PM	#8
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-772449 VARSITY	In no particular order, my votes are: Terrell Owens - great player on the field, but always treated his teammates terribly. Minor villainy there, but a villain nonetheless. Merle Hapes - When I read the evidence, I come away convinced that he took money for throwing an NFL championship game. It's going to be hard to not vote him into the inaugural class of the Hall of Infamy. Darrell Russell - Okay, they dropped the charges of him being involved in the gang rape of a drugged woman. But given his multiple failed drug tests and eventual death in a high-speed car wreck, do we really think he wasn't involved? (And wow - I had no idea that the car in his wreck was actually owned by former Chiefs Larry Parker. He'd loaned it to Russell and the car driver.) Jim Irsay - I have no patience for rich trust fund babies who screw up their lives and then blame their problems on others. George Foster - I still remember the video and outrage of him diving at an opponent's knee from the back and breaking his leg. Everyone in America thinks that George Foster is a cowardly cheap-shotter. Howie Long - He's the worst kind of villain. He cheap-shots people and then tries to act like he's above doing it. And then he wears glasses on the pre-game show to try to convince people that he's thoughtful. He's a terrible person in every respect. Matt Millen - I think Millen could go all the way in this tournament. He's dumb as a rock and is actually proud that he was a cheating cheap-shotter. Nice GM work in Detroit, you dumbf***. Joe Don Looney - He's a minor villain, but he was a very talented guy who was so committed to being a jerk that he ruined his own career. What a waste of an opportunity. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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05-20-2025, 10:43 PM	#10
Bump YOU take YOUR seat Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $-1754895	I went with TO, Art Modell, Scott Norwood and Damnit Carl . Don't really know the controversy with the rest of them I guess.
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05-20-2025, 11:09 PM	#11
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-772449 VARSITY	One of my enduring memories of Matt Millen was him running full-tilt into the backfield on a passing play against the Chiefs, ignoring the quarterback, and trying to injure a young Joe Delaney. He knocked Delaney out of the game on a very intentional cheap shot. Screw Matt Millen. He's in the worst five all-time among dirty players. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
Posts: 145,608

05-20-2025, 11:11 PM	#12
Garcia Bronco No Keys, No Problem Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver Casino cash: $1603136	Where's Thomas and Simmons? How about Rae carruth? Ray Lewis anyone? Mike harden Dale Carter? Darrell Gardner? Daniel Snyder? OJ Simpson? Jim Brown?
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05-20-2025, 11:13 PM	#13
Garcia Bronco No Keys, No Problem Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver Casino cash: $1603136	Steve grogan Romanowski Kam Chancellor Ruggs
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05-21-2025, 07:00 AM	#15
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