****Official 2008 CP Mock Draft Picks Thread****

[OnTheWarpath15]

The following trades have effected the draft order:

Corey Williams to Cleveland for a R2 pick.

Shaun Rogers to Cleveland for a R3 pick.

Kris Jenkins to the Jets for a R3 pick.

Marcus Stroud to the Bills for a R3 pick.

Redskins to Broncos. The Washington Redskins traded their fourth-round selection in 2008, and their third-round selection in 2007 (used to select Ryan Harris) to the Denver Broncos as part of a three-team trade in which Washington received T.J. Duckett and Atlanta received Ashley Lelie. (This was the result of a formula which could have had Denver and Washington swapping 2007 first-round selections.)

Saints to Jets. The Saints traded their fourth-round selection in 2008 to the Jets, for Jonathan Vilma.

Jets to Panthers. The New York Jets traded their third-round and fifth-round selections to the Carolina Panthers in a deal that sent Kris Jenkins to New York.

Dolphins to Chiefs. Miami (conditionally) traded its fifth-round selection in 2008 to the Kansas City Chiefs in exchange for Trent Green. The selection would have become a fourth-round selection if Green had met certain performance criteria.

Bears to Bills. Chicago (conditionally) traded their fifth-round selection in 2008 to Buffalo in exchange for Darwin Walker. The round of the selection may change, depending on Walker's playing time.

Panthers to Bears. The Carolina Panthers traded their fifth-round selection in 2008 to Chicago in exchange for Chris Harris.

Raiders to Broncos. Oakland (conditionally) traded their fifth-round selection in 2008 to Denver in exchange for Gerard Warren.

Bills to Jaguars The Buffalo Bills traded a 3rd and 5th round selection to the Jacksonville Jaguars in return for DT Marcus Stroud.

Seahawks to Browns. The Seattle Seahawks traded their sixth-round selection in 2008 to Cleveland in exchange for Charlie Frye.[24]

Packers to Giants. The Green Bay Packers traded their sixth-round selection in 2008 to the New York Giants in exchange for running back Ryan Grant.

Broncos to Rams. Denver traded their sixth-round selection in 2008 to the St. Louis Rams for defensive tackle Jimmy Kennedy.[26] The trade occurred after the Broncos had tried to trade the same pick to Miami for defensive tackle Dan Wilkinson; that trade was voided.

Browns to Eagles. Cleveland traded their sixth-round selection in 2008 to Philadelphia for center Hank Fraley. The trade was conditional on games started by Fraley, and could have fallen to a seventh-round pick, but Fraley started all 16 games.

Cowboys/Dolphins swap. The teams swapped their sixth-round selections in a trade involving Jason Ferguson.

Jaguars to Vikings. Jacksonville traded their sixth-round selection for Troy Williamson.

Texans to Broncos. Houston traded their sixth-round pick for Chris Myers.

Steelers to Falcons. The Pittsburgh Steelers traded their seventh-round selection in 2008 to Atlanta for kick/punt returner Allen Rossum.

Seahawks to Eagles. Seattle traded their seventh-round selection in 2008 to Philadelphia for fullback Josh Parry.

Eagles to Bills. Philadelphia traded their seventh-round selection in 2008, and defensive tackle Darwin Walker, to Buffalo for linebacker Takeo Spikes and quarterback Kelly Holcomb.

Rams to Vikings. St. Louis traded their seventh-round selection in 2008 to Minnesota for offensive tackle Adam Goldberg.

Giants to Chiefs. The New York Giants traded their seventh-round selection in 2008 to Kansas City for kicker Lawrence Tynes.

Vikings to Jets. Minnesota traded their seventh-round pick in 2008 to the Jets in exchange for Brooks Bollinger.

Bengals to Rams. Cincinnati traded their seventh-round pick in 2008 to St. Louis in exchange for Ryan Fitzpatrick.




When making your selection, please list the player's name, his position and the school he played for. Not everyone has the same level of knowledge about prospects, and this information will help people who want to research these players further.

Also, if you would, please tell us your reasoning for selecting the player you did. It doesn't have to be a novel, just give some insight on your thought process.

Let's have some fun.



Round 1

1 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio State
2 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
3 FALCONS (jiveturkey) - Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
4 RAIDERS (ChiefsCountry) - Chris Long, DE, Virginia
5 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
6 JETS (PHOG) - Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas
7 PATRIOTS (MarcoPolo) - Jake Long, OT, Michigan
8 RAVENS (Mr Flopnuts) - Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy
9 BENGALS (Spicy McHaggis) - Keith Rivers, LB, USC
10 SAINTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tenn. St.
11 BILLS (Direckshun) - Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida
12 BRONCOS (ct) - Kenny Phillips, S, Miami
13 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville
14 BEARS (Sanka) - Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma
15 LIONS (BigRock) - Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State
16 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - Rashard Mendenhall, RB,Illinois
17 VIKINGS (Zeke Ziggle) - Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson
18 TEXANS (sfeihc) - Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida
19 EAGLES (Sandy Limpdick) - Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
20 BUCCANEERS (Direckshun) - Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona
21 REDSKINS (Sully) - Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College
22 COWBOYS (htismaqe) - Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt
23 STEELERS (milkman) - Brandon Albert, G, Virgina
24 TITANS (JBucc) - Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon
25 SEAHAWKS (DaKCManAP) - DeSean Jackson, WR, California
26 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Lawrence Jackson, DE, USC
27 CHARGERS (noa) - Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh
28 COWBOYS (htismaqe) - Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas
29 49ERS (bsp4444) - James Hardy, WR, Indiana
30 PACKERS (crazycoffey) - Reggie Smith, DB, Oklahoma
31 GIANTS (bdeg) - Dan Connor, LB, Penn State

Round 2

32 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Carl Nicks, OT, Nebraska
33 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - Sam Baker, OT, USC
34 RAIDERS (ChiefsCountry) - Kentwan Balmer, DT North Carolina
35 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Quentin Groves, DE, Auburn
36 JETS (PHOG) - Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan St.
37 FALCONS (jiveturkey) - Patrick Lee, CB, Auburn
38 RAVENS (Mr Flopnuts) - Joe Flacco, QB, Delaware
39 49ERS (bsp4444) - Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
40 SAINTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Pat Sims, DT, Auburn
41 BILLS (sfeihc) - Fred Davis, TE, USC
42 BRONCOS (ct) - Anthony Collins. OT, Kansas
43 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Jerod Mayo, ILB, Tennesee
44 BEARS (Sanka) - Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas
45 LIONS (BigRock) - Brandon Flowers, CB, Virginia Tech
46 BENGALS (Spicy McHaggis) Martellus Bennett, TE, Texas A&M
47 VIKINGS (Zeke Ziggle) - John Carlson, TE, Notre Dame
48 FALCONS (jiveturkey) - Frank Okam, DT, Texas
49 EAGLES (Sandy Limpdick) - Curtis Lofton, MLB, Oklahoma
50 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana
51 REDSKINS (Sully) - Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas State
52 BUCCANEERS (Direckshun) - Early Doucet, WR, LSU
53 STEELERS (milkman) - Chilo Rachal, OG, USC
54 TITANS (JBucc) - Mario Manningham, WR, Michigan
55 SEAHAWKS (DaKCManAP) - Brad Cottam, TE, Tennessee
56 PACKERS (crazycoffey) - Ali Highsmigh, OLB, LSU
57 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Cliff Avril, OLB, Purdue
58 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - DaJuan Morgan, S, NC State
59 COLTS (BTAU) - Trevor Laws, DT, Notre Dame
60 PACKERS (crazycoffey) - Chad Henne, QB, Michigan
61 COWBOYS (htismaqe) - Jamaal Charles, RB, Texas
62 PATRIOTS (MarcoPolo) - Xavier Adibi, LB, Virginia Tech
63 GIANTS (bdeg) - Erin Henderson, LB, Maryland

Round 3

64 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Thomas DeCoud, SS, California
65 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - Andre Caldwell, WR, Florida
66 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Justin King, CB, Penn State
67 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Chris Johnson, RB, East Carolina
68 FALCONS (jiveturkey) - Heath Benedict, OT, Newberry
69 PATRIOTS (MarcoPolo) - Shawn Crable, OLB, Michigan
70 49ERS (bsp4444) - Tavares Gooden, LB, Miami
71 BILLS (OnTheWarpath58) - Earl Bennett, WR, Vanderbilt
72 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Red Bryant, DT, Texas A&M
73 VIKINGS (Zeke Ziggle) - Andre Woodson, QB, Kentucky
74 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Dre Moore, DT, Maryland
75 BEARS (Sanka) - Quintin Demps, S, UTEP
76 LIONS (BigRock) - Philip Wheeler, LB, Georgia Tech
77 BENGALS (Spicy McHaggis) - Roy Schuening, OG, Oregon State
78 SAINTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Dustin Keller, TE, Purdue
79 TEXANS (sfeihc) - Terrell Thomas, CB, USC
80 EAGLES (Sandy Limpdick) - Eric Young, OL, Tennessee
81 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - Drew Radovich, OG, USC
82 VIKINGS (Zeke Ziggle) - Marcus Harrison, DT, Arkansas
83 BUCCANEERS (Direckshun) - Tony Hills, OT, Texas
84 REDSKINS (Sully) - Josh Barrett, S, Arizona State
85 TITANS (JBucc) - Chris Ellis, DE, Virginia Tech
86 SEAHAWKS (DaKCManAP) - Ahtyba Rubin, DT, Iowa State
87 LIONS (BigRock) - Ray Rice, RB, Rutgers
88 STEELERS (milkman) - Charles Godfrey, CB, Iowa
89 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Josh Johnson, QB, San Diego
90 BEARS (Sanka) - Duane Brown, OT, Virginia Tech
91 PACKERS (crazycoffey) - Oneil Cousins, OT, UTEP
92 COWBOYS (htismaqe) - Eddie Royal, WR, Virginia Tech
93 COLTS (BTAU) - Geno Hayes, LB, Florida State
94 GIANTS (bdeg) - Tyrell Johnson, S, Arkansas St.
95 PATRIOTS (MarcoPolo) - Chevis Jackson, CB, LSU

Round 4

96 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Jonathan Goff. MLB, Vanderbilit
97 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - Mike Pollack, C, Arizona
98 JETS (milkman) - Donnie Avery. WR. Houston
99 FALCONS (DaKCManAP) - Beau Bell, MLB, UNLV
100 RAIDERS (ChiefsCountry) - Lavelle Hawkins, WR California
101 CHIEFS (Mecca) -Jerome Simpson, WR, Coastal Carolina
102 RAVENS (Mr Flopnuts) - John Grecco, OT, Toledo
103 49ERS (Chiefscafan) - Adarius Bowman, WR, Ok St.
104 BRONCOS (sfeihc) - DeMario Pressley, DT, NC State
105 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Craig Steltz, S, LSU
106 BEARS (Sanka) - Eric Ainge, QB, Tennessee
107 LIONS (Archie Bunker) - Jermichael Finley, TE, Texas
108 BENGALS (Spicy McHaggis) - Marcus Howard, LB, Georgia
109 JETS (milkman) - Trae Williams, CB, South Florida
110 BILLS (ChiefsCountry) - Steve Justice, C, Wake Forest
111 EAGLES (Direckshun) - Wesley Woodyard, LB, Kentucky
112 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - Darrell Robertson, LB, Georgia Tech
113 VIKINGS (Hamas Jenkins) - Tyvon Brach, CB, Connecticut
114 TEXANS (sfeihc) - Ezra Butler, LB, Nevada
115 BRONCOS (sfeihc) - Kevin Smith, RB, Central Florida
116 BUCCANEERS (Direckshun) - Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia
117 SEAHAWKS (DaKCManAP) - Mike McGlynn, OG, Pittsburgh
118 BROWNS (Hamas Jenkins) - Matt Forte, RB, Tulane
119 STEELERS (milkman) - Simeon Castille, CB, Alabama
120 TITANS (Sanka) - Bruce Davis, LB, UCLA
121 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Antwuan Molden, CB, Eastern Kentucky
122 COWBOYS (OnTheWarpath58) - Jeremy Zuttah, OG, Rutgers
123 COLTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Jason Jones, DE, Eastern Michigan
124 PACKERS (pestilenceaf23) - Martin Rucker, TE, Missouri
125 PATRIOTS (Mr Flopnuts) - Steve Slaton, RB, West Virginia
126 GIANTS (bdeg) - Harry Douglas, WR, Louisville

Round 5

127 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Tashard Choice, RB, Georgia Tech
128 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - Kirk Barton, OT, Ohio State
129 FALCONS (DaKCManAP) - Marcus Monk, WR, Arkansas
130 BRONCOS (sfeihc) - Vince Hall, LB, Virginia Tech
131 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson
132 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Trevor Scott, DE, Buffalo
133 49ERS (Chiefscafan) FORFEITED DUE TO TAMPERING
134 BEARS (Sanka) - Andre Fluellen, DT, Florida State
135 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - John Sullivan, C, Notre Dame
136 LIONS (Archie Bunker) - Nick Hayden, DT, Wisconsin
137 BENGALS (Spicy McHaggis) - Kendall Langford, DE, Hampton
138 SAINTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Dexter Jackson, WR, Appalachian State
139 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Robert Felton, OG, Arkansas
140 BRONCOS (sfeihc) - Adrian Arrington, WR, Michigan
141 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - William Franklin, WR, Missouri
142 VIKINGS (Hamas Jenkins) - Kerry Brown, OG Appalachian State
143 TEXANS (sfeihc) - Stanford Kegler, LB, Purdue
144 EAGLES (Direckshun) - Mike Hart, RB, Michigan
145 BUCCANEERS (Direckshun) - Dorien Bryant, WR, Purdue
146 REDSKINS (BigChiefFan) - Gary Guyton, LB, Georgia Tech
147 EAGLES (Direckshun) - Terrence Wheatley, CB, Colorado
148 STEELERS (milkman) - Keenan Burton, WR, Kentucky
149 TITANS (Sanka) - Jeremy Thompson, DE, Wake Forest
150 SEAHAWKS (DaKCManAP) - Peyton Hillis, FB, Arkansas
151 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Orlando Scandrick, CB, Boise State
152 CHARGERS (Mecca) - Jamar Adams, SS, Michigan
153 COLTS (OnTheWarpath58) - John David Booty, QB, USC
154 PACKERS (pestilenceaf23) - Jack Ikegwuonu, CB, Wisconsin
155 COWBOYS (OnTheWarpath58) - Dwight Lowery, CB, San Jose State
156 PATRIOTS (Mr Flopnuts) - Paul Hubbard, WR, Wisconsin
157 GIANTS (bdeg) - Mike Gibson, OG, California

Round 6

158 COWBOYS (OnTheWarpath58) - Tom Zbikowski, S, Notre Dame
159 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - Michael Grant, CB/S, Arkansas
160 RAIDERS (ChiefsCountry) - Geoff Schwartz, T Oregon
161 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Craig Stevens, TE, Cal
162 JETS (milkman) - Kevin O'Connell, QB, San Diego St.
163 FALCONS (DaKCManAP) - Jack Williams, CB Kent State
164 RAVENS (Mr Flopnuts) - DJ Hall, WR, Alabama
165 49ERS (Chiefscafan) - Colt Brennan, QB, Hawaii
166 BEARS (Sanka) - Jordan Dizon, LB, Colorado
167 LIONS (Archie Bunker) - Marcus Griffin, S, Texas
168 BENGALS (Spicy McHaggis) -Jacob Hester, FB, LSU
169 SAINTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Kory Lichtensteiger, C, Bowling Green
170 BILLS (ChiefsCountry) - Spencer Lawson, LB, Arizona
171 RAMS (BigChiefFan) - J Lemen, LB, Illinois
172 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Chase Ortiz, DE/LB, TCU
173 VIKINGS (Hamas Jenkins)- Brian Johnston, DE, Gardner Webb
174 BRONCOS (sfeihc) - Taylor Mehlhaff, K, Wisconsin
175 EAGLES (Direckshun) - Johnny Dingle. DE, West Virginia
176 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - David Roach, FS, TCU
177 REDSKINS (BigChiefFan) - Chad Rinehart, OG, Northern Iowa
178 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Davone Bess, WR, Hawaii
179 STEELERS (milkman) - Chauncey Washington, USC
180 TITANS (Sanka) - Darnell Terrell, CB, Missouri
181 BROWNS (Hamas Jenkins) - Cody Wallace, C Texas A&M
182 EAGLES (Direckshun) - Ken Iwebema, DE, Iowa
183 VIKINGS (Hamas Jenkins) - King Dunlap, OT, Auburn
184 CHARGERS (Mecca) - Cory Boyd, RB, South Carolina
185 GIANTS (bdeg) - DeJuan Tribble, CB, Boston College
186 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Kellen Davis, TE, Michigan State
187 COLTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Kevin Robinson, WR, Utah State
188 PATRIOTS (Mr Flopnuts) - Lamar Myles, LB, Louisville
189 GIANTS (bdeg) - Jacob Tamme, TE, Kentucky

Round 7

190 DOLPHINS (Hamas Jenkins) - Jalen Parmele, RB, Toledo
191 VIKINGS (Hamas Jenkins) - Arman Shields, WR Richmond
192 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Brandon Keith, OT/OG, Northern Iowa
193 JETS (milkman) - DJ Wolfe, SS, Oklahoma
194 FALCONS (DaKCManAP) - Chris Harrington, DE, Texas A&M
195 RAIDERS (ChiefsCountry) -Dennis Dixon, QB Oregon
196 49ERS (Chiefscafan) - Jayson Foster, WR, Georgia Southern
197 RAVENS (Mr Flopnuts) - Justin Forsett, RB, California
198 LIONS (Archie Bunker) - Ryan O'Hara, QB, Central Oklahoma
199 RAMS (BigChiefFan)- Steve Octavian, LB, Nebraska
200 SAINTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Jamie Silva, S, Boston College
201 BILLS (ChiefsCountry) - Bryan Kehl, LB BYU
202 BRONCOS (sfeihc) - Frank Morton, DT, Tulane
203 PANTHERS (Chiefscafan) - Demitrious Bell, OT, Northwestern State
204 BEARS (Sanka) - Anthony Aldridge, WR, Houston
205 TEXANS (sfeihc) - Caleb Campbell, s, Army
206 BILLS (ChiefsCountry) - Donald Thomas, G Connecticut
207 CARDINALS (Archie Bunker) - Tommy Blake, OLB, TCU
208 JETS (milkman) - Titus Brown, DE, Miss State
209 BUCCANEERS (Direckshun) - Letroy Guion, DT, FSU
210 REDSKINS (BigChiefFan) - Keilen Dykes, DT, West Virginia
211 TITANS (Sanka) - Darius Reynaud, WR, West Virginia
212 BILLS (ChiefsCountry) - Xavier Omon, RB Northwest Missouri State
213 BROWNS (Hamas Jenkins) - Lance Legget, WR, Miami
214 FALCONS (DaKCManAP) - Breno Giocomeni, OT, Louisville
215 JAGUARS (pestilenceaf23) - Allen Patrick, RB, Oklahoma
216 CHARGERS (Mecca) - Zack Bowman, CB, Nebraska
217 COWBOYS (OnTheWarpath58) -Matt Flynn, QB, LSU
218 COLTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Chris McDuffie, OG, Clemson
219 PACKERS (pestilenceaf23) - Carlton Powell, DT, Virginia Tech
220 PATRIOTS (Mr Flopnuts) - Marcel Reece WR Washington
221 CHIEFS (Mecca) - Glenn Sharpe, CB, Miami

[melbar]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I'm pretty sure Groves needs about 30 pounds before anybody considers making him a DE in the 3-4 -- was that a typo?

Groves faced 300+ OTs his entire career at Auburn, and put up great numbers his entire time. He's very strong for a DE (he's 260, by the way), and has insane quickness that will plague any OT that doesn't have elite footwork.

I meant LB in a 3-4. I'm just saying he's small for a DE and tended to wear down late in games constantly handling much larger blockers. Again, great player, just not the best fit. Especially if we go D in the first having had the 31st offense in the league and relying on the draft to make improvements. Ellis and Allen will give us an incredible pass rush. We have no CB's to speak of so we would still be succeptable to short quick passes to negate the pass rush.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Considering Bennett is 260lbs and has the fame to get bigger, I actually think he's a pretty solid blocker and can be coached to be excellent at it.

I think he can be great in every aspect of the game.

Well size is size. It helps but blocking is technique, and it's not particularly easy to get low when you're 6'7" and "only" 260 lbs. I looked up a couple pictures of the guy, and I do see a little bit of weight he could add, I mean he doesn't look maxed or anything.

I think he could be a good blocker at the size he's at now, without adding any weight. But his current height/weight is going to require a bit of technique coaching.

Still, interesting perspective. I hadn't even paid much attention to the guy other than the one game.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by melbar

I meant LB in a 3-4. I'm just saying he's small for a DE and tended to wear down late in games constantly handling much larger blockers. Again, great player, just not the best fit. Especially if we go D in the first having had the 31st offense in the league and relying on the draft to make improvements. Ellis and Allen will give us an incredible pass rush. We have no CB's to speak of so we would still be succeptable to short quick passes to negate the pass rush.

Sounds to me like Groves would be an amazing player if only we could work him into a rotation with two other good DEs.

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[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Well size is size. It helps but blocking is technique, and it's not particularly easy to get low when you're 6'7" and "only" 260 lbs. I looked up a couple pictures of the guy, and I do see a little bit of weight he could add, I mean he doesn't look maxed or anything.

I think he could be a good blocker at the size he's at now, without adding any weight. But his current height/weight is going to require a bit of technique coaching.

Still, interesting perspective. I hadn't even paid much attention to the guy other than the one game.

Strengths:
Excellent size with long arms and a huge frame...Outstanding athleticism...Has big reliable hands and can pluck the ball away from his body...Real tough, strong and physical...Terrific ball skills and body control...Decent route runner..Above average blocker with the potential to get even better..Probably has a considerable upside.

Weaknesses:
Lacks elite timed speed...Not real quick or explosive...Not a vertical threat who will stretch the field...Could stand to bulk up...Needs to get stronger...Is still raw from a technique standpoint...Not very elusive and won't do much after the catch...May still be a tad bit immature...Does he truly love the game and is he dedicated to it?

Notes:
Is also an outstanding basketball player who saw action on the hardwood for the Aggies...Actually entered the NBA Draft out of high school before withdrawing his name...Gave up basketball in January 2007 to focus on football..Was underutilized in the Aggies run-orientated offense..Talented player with a unique set of physical tools who could be a very good all-around tight end at the next level...The type of prospect who could turn out to be even better in the pros than he was in college.

[mylittlepony]

So Mecca,

Im guessing with your comments you are interested in CB next round. If the draft came out like you have put it, with the CB you want in the 3rd round.

How many wins do you see the chiefs having and if Herm was listening to you as his head scout. Do you think he would get fired after next season (based on that number of wins). We're gonna have a smashing Defense but our O is gonna suck bad. Now Im all for rebuild and sucking bad 1-2 more years but could Herm really risk it seeing as where his career is at?

[philfree]

So Mecca, you don't like this WR class but how do you feel about Jerome Simpson? I'm itrigued by this guy because of long arms and huge hands. He had decent production in college and he had a decent week at the E. W. Shrine game(I think that was the one). Do you have any thoughts of what round he might go in?

PhilFree

[Direckshun]

So Mecca,

Well tell you what, if you're going to get an elite TE you do it when we still have Tony G. Guy won't have a much better tutor than that.

Sounds like an interesting prospect -- especially since he played some basketball too. Really, sounds a bit like Tony Gonzalez.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by mylittlepony

So Mecca,

Im guessing with your comments you are interested in CB next round. If the draft came out like you have put it, with the CB you want in the 3rd round.

How many wins do you see the chiefs having and if Herm was listening to you as his head scout. Do you think he would get fired after next season (based on that number of wins). We're gonna have a smashing Defense but our O is gonna suck bad. Now Im all for rebuild and sucking bad 1-2 more years but could Herm really risk it seeing as where his career is at?

I don't think I'd get fired cause my players would be fine...it's gonna take 3-4 years though.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I'll just say this:

The one QB I'd like to see the Chiefs draft this year would be Josh Johnson in round 4 or 5.

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Plus Allan didn't look too bad in the preseason but it's conceivable that the coaches simply don't like him enough to give him any time...

I think they like Allan. Herm talked him up a little on NFL Network during the combine. Of course, Herm talks up most anyone. But he was talking hypothetically about drafting a TE, and said Gailey likes to use two TE sets and referred to Tony and Allan. Might be reading too much in, but I got the impression he's already pencilled in unless they draft somebody in the upper rounds. Mainly, though, Herm was talking about finding a blocking TE to replace Dunn from what I saw. I think he and Mayock were high on some kid from Cal Berkeley. Or Mayock was, at least.

But the big thing is that when Turley went on IR a few weeks before the final game, they brought Allan up to the main roster despite having no need for another TE. There's really no other reason to do that except to keep another team from swiping him off the practice squad, so they must like him a little.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by BigRock

I think they like Allan. Herm talked him up a little on NFL Network during the combine. Of course, Herm talks up most anyone. But he was talking hypothetically about drafting a TE, and said Gailey likes to use two TE sets and referred to Tony and Allan. Might be reading too much in, but I got the impression he's already pencilled in unless they draft somebody in the upper rounds. Mainly, though, Herm was talking about finding a blocking TE to replace Dunn from what I saw. I think he and Mayock were high on some kid from Cal Berkeley. Or Mayock was, at least.

But the big thing is that when Turley went on IR a few weeks before the final game, they brought Allan up to the main roster despite having no need for another TE. There's really no other reason to do that except to keep another team from swiping him off the practice squad, so they must like him a little.

Yeah Mayock loves Stevens, from Cal. Good blocker reportedly, but I haven't seen him in action.

Hey, I'm thrilled Herm brought up Allan. I just got the impression that they threw him on the Ps all year because they truly weren't pleased with his progress -- I also remember the TE coach in Hard Knocks (yeah, I know) saying he didn't like how Allan practiced, which seemed asinine to me because Allan was the only TE taking reps throughout all of training camp.

Allan has shown great hands in the limited preseason time he got. He's shown good route-running and he's made the tough catch. I think he's a good role player, maybe even an eventual starter a few years down the road. But the way the Chiefs treated him last year concerned me.

But glad to hear Herm talking him up. Herm doesn't just talk up anybody, and when he namechecks somebody usually it's deliberate. So it's good to hear.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'll just say this:

The one QB I'd like to see the Chiefs draft this year would be Josh Johnson in round 4 or 5.

Honestly, if we're going to draft a QB, it's got to be in the earliest of the early rounds. It'd have to be somebody who'd push immediately against Croyle for that starting job. Because we already have a late round pick slotted to eventually be Croyle's longterm backup QB in Thigpen, and I haven't seen anything from Johnson to suggest he's anything but a solid backup in the NFL.

But eh. I've been wrong before. I do think that if a team is looking to gamble on a QB in the midrounds, Johnson's a solid option.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'll check in when I get into Dayton tonight and see if bsp4444 has made his pick......

[bsp4444]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'll check in when I get into Dayton tonight and see if bsp4444 has made his pick......

I'm here. Just need a little time to re-group, all my top players that were left were taken while I wasn't looking. I'll have something this morning.

[bsp4444]

Really wanted to go OL here, but Baker and Nicks were gone and I have to believe the 49ers can pick something up in the later rounds. With that in mind, with the 39th pick in the draft, the San Fransisco 49ers select Calais Campbell, DE from Miami
Campbell probably really should have stayed another year and established himself as the dominant DE in college, at 6'8" 280 lbs. he has that kind of athleticism and potential. He sort of just went through the motions in his junior campaign, but maybe Justin Smith can light a fire under him and create a really scary defensive line for the 49ers.