Chiefs Cassel 24th out of 29 quarterbacks in downfield passing.

Hammock Parties · 05:26 AM

We debated Cassel's downfield passing in another thread earlier this week. I said I would wait for the splits to get updated before I compared him to the rest of the league, and here are the results (completion percentage, TD/INT):

Cassel is 24th out of 29 quarterbacks in the NFL in completion percentage on pass attempts over 10 yards.

I threw out the names in red because they have fewer than 40 attempts.

Henne - 58.6 1/1
Rivers - 54.5 7/5
Schaub - 54.4 4/4
Fitzpatrick - 54.3 7/3
Romo - 51.7 4/2
E. Manning - 50.6 8/4
Young - 50.0 6/1
Kolb - 50.0 2/2
Flacco - 49.4 10/4
Ryan - 49.3 7/2
P. Manning - 48.4 8/1
Rodgers 48.3 10/8
Orton - 47.5 7/3
Favre - 46.9 5/6
Palmer - 46.5 4/3
Garrard - 46.4 4/5
Hasselbeck - 45.2 3/3
Anderson - 45.1 1/2
Bradford - 45 5/5
Sanchez - 44.8 6/2
Cutler - 43.2 3/4
McNabb - 42.8 5/
Brady - 42.0 4/4
Cassel - 41.5 4/2
Brees - 41.4 4/5
Smith - 40.2 4/3
Wallace - 38.2 3/0 (34 att)
Moore - 38.2 3/5 (34 att)
Gradkowski 38.1 2/4
Freeman - 34.2 3/2
Clausen - 30.4 1/1 (23 att)
Hill - 29.5 4/2
Campbell - 25.8 1/2 (22 att)

For comparison, Cassel's downfield passing history:

2009 - 38.8 percent, 8 TD, 13 INT
2008 - 40.2 percent, 12 TD, 8 INT

Notes:

1. Jason Campbell and Bruce Gradkowski suck. We have no business losing to the Raiders.

2. Brees will bump Cassel to 25th in short order.

3. Sanchez, bitches!!!

4. Flacco is a ****ing stud.

5. Impressed by Chad Henne and fearful of Fitzpatrick.

Ebolapox · 10-28-2010, 09:49 PM

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Psyko Tek · 10-28-2010, 09:55 PM

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didn't you see this?

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to the 'ship

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wha are the 9'ers/pats throwing away next year

Sandolf · 10-28-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

Brees will bump Cassel to 25th in short order.

Brees is vastly overrated. He will have a good... (on occasion great) season and then invariably follow it up with a dud!

10-28-2010, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandolf

Brees is vastly overrated. He will have a good... (on occasion great) season and then invariably follow it up with a dud!

I'd settle for a SuperBowl win then a dud. I mean, I guess I probably would.

Sandolf · 10-28-2010, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

I'd settle for a SuperBowl win then a dud. I mean, I guess I probably would.

They're lucky Lord Favre lost his mind when he did. Ah well... such is life.

**Bearcat** · 10-28-2010, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandolf

Brees is vastly overrated. He will have a good... (on occasion great) season and then invariably follow it up with a dud!

Please pick the duds.

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YEAR	TEAM 	G 	CMP 	ATT 	PCT 	YDS 	AVG 	TD 	LNG 	INT 	FUM 	RAT
2004	SD	15 	262 	400 	65.5 	3159 	7.9 	27 	79 	7 	4 	104.8
2005	SD	16 	323 	500 	64.6 	3576 	7.2 	24 	54 	15 	8 	89.2
2006	NO	16 	356 	554 	64.3 	4418 	8.0 	26 	86 	11 	5 	96.2
2007	NO	16 	440 	652 	67.5 	4423 	6.8 	28 	58 	18 	8 	89.4
2008	NO	16 	413 	635 	65.0 	5069 	8.0 	34 	84 	17 	1 	96.2
2009	NO	15 	363 	514 	70.6 	4388 	8.5 	34 	75 	11 	9 	109.6
2010	NO	7 	200 	287 	69.7 	2029 	7.1 	14 	80 	10 	4 	91.4

10-28-2010, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Please pick the duds.

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YEAR	TEAM 	G 	CMP 	ATT 	PCT 	YDS 	AVG 	TD 	LNG 	INT 	FUM 	RAT
2004	SD	15 	262 	400 	65.5 	3159 	7.9 	27 	79 	7 	4 	104.8
2005	SD	16 	323 	500 	64.6 	3576 	7.2 	24 	54 	15 	8 	89.2
2006	NO	16 	356 	554 	64.3 	4418 	8.0 	26 	86 	11 	5 	96.2
2007	NO	16 	440 	652 	67.5 	4423 	6.8 	28 	58 	18 	8 	89.4
2008	NO	16 	413 	635 	65.0 	5069 	8.0 	34 	84 	17 	1 	96.2
2009	NO	15 	363 	514 	70.6 	4388 	8.5 	34 	75 	11 	9 	109.6
2010	NO	7 	200 	287 	69.7 	2029 	7.1 	14 	80 	10 	4 	91.4

Doh! Ya know, 05 and 07 were pretty rough - what with that 89 QB rating...

Sandolf · 10-28-2010, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Please pick the duds.

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YEAR TEAM G CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM RAT

2005 SD 16 323 500 64.6 3576 7.2 24 54 15 8 89.2

2007 NO 16 440 652 67.5 4423 6.8 28 58 18 8 89.4
2008 NO 16 413 635 65.0 5069 8.0 34 84 17 1 96.2

Where's 2003 where he sat five games behind Flutie?

Look at the interceptions, BUT that isn't the whole story. Find some stats for Red Zone interceptions please.

10-28-2010, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandolf

Where's 2003 where he sat five games behind Flutie?

Look at the interceptions, BUT that isn't the whole story. Find some stats for Red Zone interceptions please.

I think you have a chance if you invoke the awful birthmark on his face. That thing is hideous.

**QuikSsurfer** · 10-28-2010, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandolf

Where's 2003 where he sat five games behind Flutie?

Look at the interceptions, BUT that isn't the whole story. Find some stats for Red Zone interceptions please.

Yeah he was a total piece of shit 7 years ago....

**Bearcat** · 10-28-2010, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandolf

Where's 2003 where he sat five games behind Flutie?

Look at the interceptions, BUT that isn't the whole story. Find some stats for Red Zone interceptions please.

You said he follows up good-great seasons with duds, so I figured I'd give you 2002 and 2003... oh, and that was 7 years ago.

Here are your red zone stats... the past 5 full seasons (and if you really care, the first two lines are 2009, then 2008, etc). One is Drew Brees and one is Peyton Manning (strange how they're almost identical in # of attempts... oh, and interceptions).

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BY FIELD POSITION	CMP	ATT	YDS	CMP%	YPA	LNG	TD	INT	SACK	RAT
Opp 19-1 ydline	        49	87	347	56.3	3.99	18	21	1	0	100.4
Opp 9-Goal ydline	19	32	78	59.4	2.44	9	10	0	0	103.6
Opp 19-1 ydline	        60	92	416	65.2	4.52	19	22	3	1	101.3
Opp 9-Goal ydline	25	38	100	65.8	2.63	9	12	2	0	87.1
Opp 19-1 ydline	        60	84	314	71.4	3.74	19	23	0	0	116.8
Opp 9-Goal ydline	29	45	84	64.4	1.87	8	18	0	0	107.9
Opp 19-1 ydline	        25	56	159	44.6	2.84	15	10	2	2	76.5
Opp 9-Goal ydline	11	33	47	33.3	1.42	9	7	2	2	56.7
Opp 19-1 ydline	        30	49	255	61.2	5.2	19	14	3	1	88.9
Opp 9-Goal ydline	10	16	47	62.5	2.94	8	6	1	1	80.2
	                318	 532	1847	0.598	3.47		143	14	7

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BY FIELD POSITION	CMP	ATT	YDS	CMP%	YPA	LNG	TD	INT	SACK	RAT
Opp 19-1 ydline	        47	78	267	60.3	3.42	15	20	1	1	100.8
Opp 9-Goal ydline	23	38	92	60.5	2.42	9	17	1	0	93.6
Opp 19-1 ydline	        46	68	300	67.6	4.41	19	20	1	0	110.3
Opp 9-Goal ydline	18	26	72	69.2	2.77	9	13	1	0	95.8
Opp 19-1 ydline	        47	84	302	56	3.6	19	18	3	2	88.4
Opp 9-Goal ydline	20	36	103	55.6	2.86	9	14	0	1	100.5
Opp 19-1 ydline	        46	81	320	56.8	3.95	19	24	2	1	95.2
Opp 9-Goal ydline	19	33	61	57.6	1.85	9	17	1	1	89.5
Opp 19-1 ydline	        41	69	309	59.4	4.48	18	15	0	2	109.8
Opp 9-Goal ydline	12	25	60	48	2.4	9	8	0	1	94.2
	                319	538	1886	0.593	3.51		166	10	9

Red Dawg · 10-29-2010, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Please pick the duds.

Code:

YEAR	TEAM 	G 	CMP 	ATT 	PCT 	YDS 	AVG 	TD 	LNG 	INT 	FUM 	RAT
2004	SD	15 	262 	400 	65.5 	3159 	7.9 	27 	79 	7 	4 	104.8
2005	SD	16 	323 	500 	64.6 	3576 	7.2 	24 	54 	15 	8 	89.2
2006	NO	16 	356 	554 	64.3 	4418 	8.0 	26 	86 	11 	5 	96.2
2007	NO	16 	440 	652 	67.5 	4423 	6.8 	28 	58 	18 	8 	89.4
2008	NO	16 	413 	635 	65.0 	5069 	8.0 	34 	84 	17 	1 	96.2
2009	NO	15 	363 	514 	70.6 	4388 	8.5 	34 	75 	11 	9 	109.6
2010	NO	7 	200 	287 	69.7 	2029 	7.1 	14 	80 	10 	4 	91.4

That 5000 yards is as dud. He should have had 6000.

Sandolf · 10-29-2010, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

That 5000 yards is as dud. He should have had 6000.

Yeah... blame the backs for that for not getting the yards after catch on those checkdown routes. Brees has become effective in the short to intermediate game. His accuracy has improved tremendously. He still sucks at throwing the long ball... (what this thread is about). That combined with the ridiculous money he wanted is the reason he is New Orleans. The Fish even picked Culpepper ahead of him. Last season's playoffs was the first time in Brees' career where he hasn't came up flat in the big games.

Mark my words. This is one of his off years again.

**SAUTO** · 10-29-2010, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandolf

Yeah... blame the backs for that for not getting the yards after catch on those checkdown routes. Brees has become effective in the short to intermediate game. His accuracy has improved tremendously. He still sucks at throwing the long ball... (what this thread is about). That combined with the ridiculous money he wanted is the reason he is New Orleans. The Fish even picked Culpepper ahead of him. Last season's playoffs was the first time in Brees' career where he hasn't came up flat in the big games.

Mark my words. This is one of his off years again.

have you actually WATCHED a saints game in the last couple of years?

10-28-2010, 09:41 PM	Topic Starter
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $840478	Cassel 24th out of 29 quarterbacks in downfield passing. We debated Cassel's downfield passing in another thread earlier this week. I said I would wait for the splits to get updated before I compared him to the rest of the league, and here are the results (completion percentage, TD/INT): Cassel is 24th out of 29 quarterbacks in the NFL in completion percentage on pass attempts over 10 yards. I threw out the names in red because they have fewer than 40 attempts. Henne - 58.6 1/1 Rivers - 54.5 7/5 Schaub - 54.4 4/4 Fitzpatrick - 54.3 7/3 Romo - 51.7 4/2 E. Manning - 50.6 8/4 Young - 50.0 6/1 Kolb - 50.0 2/2 Flacco - 49.4 10/4 Ryan - 49.3 7/2 P. Manning - 48.4 8/1 Rodgers 48.3 10/8 Orton - 47.5 7/3 Favre - 46.9 5/6 Palmer - 46.5 4/3 Garrard - 46.4 4/5 Hasselbeck - 45.2 3/3 Anderson - 45.1 1/2 Bradford - 45 5/5 Sanchez - 44.8 6/2 Cutler - 43.2 3/4 McNabb - 42.8 5/ Brady - 42.0 4/4 Cassel - 41.5 4/2 Brees - 41.4 4/5 Smith - 40.2 4/3 Wallace - 38.2 3/0 (34 att) Moore - 38.2 3/5 (34 att) Gradkowski 38.1 2/4 Freeman - 34.2 3/2 Clausen - 30.4 1/1 (23 att) Hill - 29.5 4/2 Campbell - 25.8 1/2 (22 att) For comparison, Cassel's downfield passing history: 2009 - 38.8 percent, 8 TD, 13 INT 2008 - 40.2 percent, 12 TD, 8 INT Notes: 1. Jason Campbell and Bruce Gradkowski suck. We have no business losing to the Raiders. 2. Brees will bump Cassel to 25th in short order. 3. Sanchez, bitches!!! 4. Flacco is a ***ing stud. 5. Impressed by Chad Henne and fearful of Fitzpatrick. Last edited by Hammock Parties; 10-29-2010 at 05:26 AM..*
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