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Old 12-18-2008, 12:16 PM  
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Old 12-18-2008, 05:42 PM   #46
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Old 12-18-2008, 05:45 PM   #47
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So many of you guys act as if Herm was given a great team to coach and he just plain ****ed up.

The bottom line is that the roster was in complete and utter shambles and while Herm obviously knew this (and went to Clark about it), Peterson just went about his business, ignoring the advice of the people that worked for him.

Now, he's out.

Believe it or not, Herm is well-respected among the coaching community and I think you'd have a hard time finding someone who's just willing to fire him without performing adequate due-diligence. And that due-diligence just might take an entire season, namely the 2009 season.

It's not as if Herm was hired to coach the Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants or Carolina Panthers - teams that are loaded with talent.
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Old 12-18-2008, 05:46 PM   #48
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So many of you guys act as if Herm was given a great team to coach and he just plain ****ed up.

The bottom line is that the roster was in complete and utter shambles and while Herm obviously knew this (and went to Clark about it), Peterson just went about his business, ignoring the advice of the people that worked for him.

Now, he's out.

Believe it or not, Herm is well-respected among the coaching community and I think you'd have a hard time finding someone who's just willing to fire him without performing adequate due-diligence. And that due-diligence just might take an entire season, namely the 2009 season.

It's not as if Herm was hired to coach the Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants or Carolina Panthers - teams that are loaded with talent.
Without getting into the merits of whether Herm is a good coach or not, it puts the new GM in a tough, tough spot. These guys want to hit the ground running. They have a model for success, and have a short list of coaches that they want to team with.
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Old 12-18-2008, 05:50 PM   #49
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Which is one of the reasons you shitcan Herm. These players are too comfortable, imo. It was this way prior to Carl's arrival. When that rat Lowery and a few others went to the owner and lobbied for Mackovic to be canned because (*gasp) Gansz was going to be hired away by somebody else. "And we love him".

This franchise is so f'ed up. I can only hope and pray that Clark puts the correct people in place to build it right.
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Old 12-18-2008, 05:50 PM   #50
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So many of you guys act as if Herm was given a great team to coach and he just plain ****ed up.

The bottom line is that the roster was in complete and utter shambles and while Herm obviously knew this (and went to Clark about it), Peterson just went about his business, ignoring the advice of the people that worked for him.

Now, he's out.

Believe it or not, Herm is well-respected among the coaching community and I think you'd have a hard time finding someone who's just willing to fire him without performing adequate due-diligence. And that due-diligence just might take an entire season, namely the 2009 season.

It's not as if Herm was hired to coach the Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants or Carolina Panthers - teams that are loaded with talent.


Question:

Should winning be important to a team that is rebuilding?
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Old 12-18-2008, 05:54 PM   #51
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I hope everyones answer to this YES..... for everyone that wants us to lose .... eff Off
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Old 12-18-2008, 05:57 PM   #52
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How many fourth quarters do you need to come up with an answer?
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Old 12-18-2008, 06:01 PM   #53
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So many of you guys act as if Herm was given a great team to coach and he just plain ****ed up.

The bottom line is that the roster was in complete and utter shambles and while Herm obviously knew this (and went to Clark about it), Peterson just went about his business, ignoring the advice of the people that worked for him.

Now, he's out.

Believe it or not, Herm is well-respected among the coaching community and I think you'd have a hard time finding someone who's just willing to fire him without performing adequate due-diligence. And that due-diligence just might take an entire season, namely the 2009 season.

It's not as if Herm was hired to coach the Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants or Carolina Panthers - teams that are loaded with talent.
He's well respected in coaching circles because he's a good guy. He's very likeable.

When Herm was hired here, he said he was fixing the defense. Shambles or not, he hasn't done it despite investing several high draft picks into the defensive line.

I also know there are a lot of people in the NFL that think Herm is a big bag of wind.

Any GM that comes in here is going to look at his record. They are going to look at the players that progressed and regressed under Herm, and they are going to look at the available coaches that might be better.
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Old 12-18-2008, 06:02 PM   #54
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Should winning be important to a team that is rebuilding?
It absolutely should be important.

This is a production-based business.

6 wins in 30 games is down right sickening.
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Old 12-18-2008, 06:04 PM   #55
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[sigh]Really? Do I again have to point out that Herm has been a head coach in the NFL for 8 seasons? Herm isn't a new coach and did not just start coaching in 2006. Herm's career record = 54-76 (including his oh-so-impressive 2-4 playoff record). Herm is a loser, has always been a loser and, guess what!, will always be a loser.

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Old 12-18-2008, 06:08 PM   #56
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How many fourth quarters do you need to come up with an answer?
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It absolutely should be important.

This is a production-based business.

6 wins in 30 games is down right sickening.
I'm not avoiding you guys, I'm just looking for an answer specifically from Dane.
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Old 12-18-2008, 06:10 PM   #57
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Old 12-18-2008, 06:10 PM   #58
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The other thing that is really irritating about Herm is that he hasn't learned from any of his mistakes. Yeah, Gailey has opened up the offense, but what is hilarious to me is how bad our second half adjustments have been. This team goes into a massive shell after half time and that has to lay on the feet of the head coach.
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Old 12-18-2008, 06:11 PM   #59
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People expect to badmouth the guy.


But would you badmouth your boss during a radio show? I'm thinking most wouldnt.

But then again, it's not like Herm would bench Waters.
I did it on a busload of coworkers after getting shitfaced in Chicago on St. Patrick's Day.

I left that job shortly thereafter.
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I'm not avoiding you guys, I'm just looking for an answer specifically from Dane.
Dane seems like a pretty knowledgable guy.

I just don't know how you could ever defend Herm Edwards like he's a first year HC.

He's been coaching for 7 freaking years.
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