Football Mayock says Lions should not draft Stafford

chop · 03-09-2009, 06:36 PM

Mayock: Lions should avoid drafting Matt Stafford

by Tom Kowalski Monday March 09, 2009, 7:54 PM

Mike Mayock, the draft analyst for NFL Network, was a guest on WJR tonight, joining hosts Ken Brown and Mike O'Hara. Here are some highlights from that interview (and the Detroit Lions fans who are hoping the team drafts Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford might be a little disappointed with Mayock's opinions):

--- Mayock said he believes that 2009 will be an average draft class without much star power in the top 10. He believes the draft is deep at outside linebacker and tight end but weak at guard and inside linebacker.
--- Mayock pointed out that of the last 11 underclassmen quarterbacks to be drafted in the first round, only two have been successful - Ben Roethlisberger and Aaron Rogers. Mayock pointed out a laundry list of failures - Heath Shuler, Ryan Leaf, Vince Young, Alex Smith and, so far, JaMarcus Russell.
Mayock said that if the Lions make a mistake at quarterback with that pick, "they won't recover for five years.''
Mayock spoke very highly of Stafford, saying he has great arm strength and is a good athlete, but also said "There are some things about him that bother me. If I was the Lions, I'd take (Aaron) Curry or one of those left tackles (Jason Smith or Eugene Monroe).
"If you have any doubts about the kid, in my opinion, you have to pass. I told everybody last year that Matt Ryan was the guy. I have questions about the guy this year.''
--- Mayock said he sees some similarities between Stafford and Denver quarterback Jay Cutler, especially arm strength, but he sees one big difference. Mayock said Cutler played for a "horrible'' Vanderbilt team but always had his team in a position to win. Stafford, meanwhile, played with two elite receivers and an NFL-caliber running back and "sometimes he looked like Superman and sometimes he looked average ... I say 'Why?'''
--- Brown and O'Hara brought up the possibility that if the Lions drafted Curry, they might move him to middle linebacker but Mayock immediately shot that down. Mayock said Curry is the prototype SAM linebacker and shouldn't be moved.

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf...void_draf.html

skky man · 03-09-2009, 06:51 PM

I read an article several weeks ago that said some of the georgia coaches were frustrated that Stafford athleticism didn't carry over to the field! Not that he is good but after three years they had hoped for more! I don't see a clear cut top QB in the draft. Sanchez is good or he wouldn't have been a USC, but he never beat out John David Booty either.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-10-2009, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by skky man

I read an article several weeks ago that said some of the georgia coaches were frustrated that Stafford athleticism didn't carry over to the field! Not that he is good but after three years they had hoped for more! I don't see a clear cut top QB in the draft. Sanchez is good or he wouldn't have been a USC, but he never beat out John David Booty either.

Stafford had a poor offensive line and a defense last year that was horrible. He did have some skill players around him, but not enough to overcome for those two issues. He also played in the best conference in college football.

This isn't Sanchez who had a great offensive line and a great defense and just had to manage the game most of the time.

KCUnited · 03-09-2009, 06:55 PM

Detroit would be better off taking Curry, in this week QB class, they should go the safe route and take a cannot miss player like Curry. But that would royally **** us. /Guy in KC sitting on hold waiting for 610 to come back from break.

Reerun_KC · 03-09-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

Detroit would be better off taking Curry, in this week QB class, they should go the safe route and take a cannot miss player like Curry. But that would royally **** us. /Guy in KC sitting on hold waiting for 610 to come back from break.

Ebolapox · 03-09-2009, 06:59 PM

Le Sigh. the true fan fear runs stong in this crowd.

Mecca · 03-09-2009, 07:33 PM

Fear, recover for 5 years, you mean opposed to the 40+ year drought they are in now?

Building into an 8-8 team being anyones desire is pretty sad.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-09-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by skky man

I read an article several weeks ago that said some of the georgia coaches were frustrated that Stafford athleticism didn't carry over to the field! Not that he is good but after three years they had hoped for more! I don't see a clear cut top QB in the draft. Sanchez is good or he wouldn't have been a USC, but he never beat out John David Booty either.

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Fear, recover for 5 years, you mean opposed to the 40+ year drought they are in now?

Building into an 8-8 team being anyones desire is pretty sad.

I just can't ****ing take it anymore; this draft needs to be done, dead, and gone. I see statements like the one above and it just......**** me; enough!

Enough.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-10-2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Fear, recover for 5 years, you mean opposed to the 40+ year drought they are in now?

Building into an 8-8 team being anyones desire is pretty sad.

The thing that you just don't seem to get is that the draft isn't the lottery. You don't just buy a ticket hoping to win. You have to have faith in the guy you draft. That doesn't make you 'scared'.

Now, if YOU were GM, and YOU drafted Sanchez, I couldn't bash you for it, because you clearly believe in the kid. But, to bash someone else for not believing in him or Stafford is silly.

Personally, I believe in Stafford. I would have liked to see the Chiefs draft him. In fact, with every loss, I thought 'we are closer to Matt Stafford'.

But, even though I personally think he is going to be a great QB, I understand the concerns and the questions about him. I don't think those people are 'scared'.

And, it would be dumb to draft a QB over a guy that you thought was better just because he was a QB. That is rationalization and hope.

I know that runs rampant on this board, but it isn't a way to run a franchise.

StcChief · 03-09-2009, 07:35 PM

It's Detriot.... who's to say Rams are completely content with Bugler, though they likely take a LT to replace Pace.

Mecca · 03-09-2009, 07:35 PM

When a team hasn't won in years and isn't close isn't that when you should be willing to take a risk?

CrazyHorse · 03-09-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

When a team hasn't won in years and isn't close isn't that when you should be willing to take a risk?

Sounds like a team that's taken too many risks.

StcChief · 03-09-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Sounds like a team that's taken too many risks.

or not enough. Like the fine line between 1 too many/1 too few.

Brock · 03-09-2009, 08:30 PM

Detroit would take 5 years to recover? They're still trying to recover from Barry Sanders retiring.

duncan_idaho · 03-09-2009, 08:31 PM

Glad to see I'm not the only person who questions why Stafford didn't consistently play like a superstar with that kind of talent around him.

I actually hope Stafford falls to the Chiefs' spot, though. Then the trade-down options are pretty fantastic.

Nothing would make me happier than watching Stafford go bust in San Francisco, either.

03-09-2009, 06:36 PM	Topic Starter
chop Go Chiefs! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $894270	Mayock says Lions should not draft Stafford Mayock: Lions should avoid drafting Matt Stafford by Tom Kowalski Monday March 09, 2009, 7:54 PM Mike Mayock, the draft analyst for NFL Network, was a guest on WJR tonight, joining hosts Ken Brown and Mike O'Hara. Here are some highlights from that interview (and the Detroit Lions fans who are hoping the team drafts Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford might be a little disappointed with Mayock's opinions): --- Mayock said he believes that 2009 will be an average draft class without much star power in the top 10. He believes the draft is deep at outside linebacker and tight end but weak at guard and inside linebacker. --- Mayock pointed out that of the last 11 underclassmen quarterbacks to be drafted in the first round, only two have been successful - Ben Roethlisberger and Aaron Rogers. Mayock pointed out a laundry list of failures - Heath Shuler, Ryan Leaf, Vince Young, Alex Smith and, so far, JaMarcus Russell. Mayock said that if the Lions make a mistake at quarterback with that pick, "they won't recover for five years.'' Mayock spoke very highly of Stafford, saying he has great arm strength and is a good athlete, but also said "There are some things about him that bother me. If I was the Lions, I'd take (Aaron) Curry or one of those left tackles (Jason Smith or Eugene Monroe). "If you have any doubts about the kid, in my opinion, you have to pass. I told everybody last year that Matt Ryan was the guy. I have questions about the guy this year.'' --- Mayock said he sees some similarities between Stafford and Denver quarterback Jay Cutler, especially arm strength, but he sees one big difference. Mayock said Cutler played for a "horrible'' Vanderbilt team but always had his team in a position to win. Stafford, meanwhile, played with two elite receivers and an NFL-caliber running back and "sometimes he looked like Superman and sometimes he looked average ... I say 'Why?''' --- Brown and O'Hara brought up the possibility that if the Lions drafted Curry, they might move him to middle linebacker but Mayock immediately shot that down. Mayock said Curry is the prototype SAM linebacker and shouldn't be moved. http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf...void_draf.html
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skky man Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $10004900	I read an article several weeks ago that said some of the georgia coaches were frustrated that Stafford athleticism didn't carry over to the field! Not that he is good but after three years they had hoped for more! I don't see a clear cut top QB in the draft. Sanchez is good or he wouldn't have been a USC, but he never beat out John David Booty either.
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