Chiefs Lions Taking OT Jason Smith With First Pick? - Page 2

RINGLEADER · 03-22-2009, 09:23 PM

So says KFFL by way of PFT...

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/...tled-on-smith/

RedThat · 03-23-2009, 08:34 AM

Well here it is folks. Just got this from KFFL.com:

Lions | To take J. Smith with first pick?
Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:38:30 -0700

KFFL has learned the Detroit Lions WILL take Baylor OT Jason Smith with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2009 NFL Draft.

htismaqe · 03-23-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think it's a smart move if they aren't in love with Stafford or Sanchez. They may also think that Sanchez may fall to them at #20. Freeman will definitely be there at #20 and may be there at #33.

They drafted Gosder Cherilus last year who's playing the right side. They'd have bookend tackles for the next decade.

Yep. I'm sure they saw what the Dolphins did last year and, right or wrong, taking Smith puts them in "win now" mode.

htismaqe · 03-23-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't.

The Chiefs just gave up #34 for two players, including Matt Cassel. Cutler hasn't had a winning season since high school and while he's got a great arm, he's certainly not at the point in his career where he's worth two picks in the top 34.

This.

bdeg · 03-23-2009, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

This.

And another opinion from the other thread(Peter King FWIW):

"Say you're the Broncos, and Tampa Bay offers you two ones [two first-round picks] plus [second-year quarterback] Josh Johnson for Cutler,'' one NFC coach told me. "Denver makes the deal and picks a quarterback with one of the ones. You've traded the best young quarterback in football for two guys who might have a chance, but might be washouts too. Denver's problem is they could never get fair value for him.''

Mr. Krab · 03-23-2009, 09:01 AM

The Chiefs could have their choice of any non-tackle of the draft

1. Lions - OT Jason Smith
2. Rams - OT Eugene Monroe
3. Chiefs - ???

htismaqe · 03-23-2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

And another opinion from the other thread(Peter King FWIW):

"Say you're the Broncos, and Tampa Bay offers you two ones [two first-round picks] plus [second-year quarterback] Josh Johnson for Cutler,'' one NFC coach told me. "Denver makes the deal and picks a quarterback with one of the ones. You've traded the best young quarterback in football for two guys who might have a chance, but might be washouts too. Denver's problem is they could never get fair value for him.''

It's Peter King. He has to take time off from sucking Denver dick to write his columns. Cutler has a huge arm and a losing record as a starter. He's far more valuable to Denver than anybody else. Furthermore, he wants a new deal. Despite the draftees being unproven, it's still less costly to take a chance on one of them when Cutler himself is largely unproven and has baggage to boot.

**DeezNutz** · 03-23-2009, 09:20 AM

It's going to sting a little if we end up having a shot at both QB's...

bdeg · 03-23-2009, 09:25 AM

Ya, its definitely a hyperbole to claim they could never get fair value, but like I said it only takes two teams to value Cutler highly for Denver to get a good deal.

**The Franchise** · 03-23-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

It's going to sting a little if we end up having a shot at both QB's...

Dis. But hopefully that means that people will be wanting to trade up for Stafford.

RINGLEADER · 03-23-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

It's going to sting a little if we end up having a shot at both QB's...

I like Cassel, but we shouldn't be wed to him. If we can get some real value for him by trading (even if Cassel lands in Denver) AND get Stafford I think it could be great draft. The more of Stafford I see the more I think he will be successful. Don't have the same feeling about Sanchez.

Besides, we can always fall back on Thigpen if we have to...

htismaqe · 03-23-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

I like Cassel, but we shouldn't be wed to him. If we can get some real value for him by trading (even if Cassel lands in Denver) AND get Stafford I think it could be great draft. The more of Stafford I see the more I think he will be successful. Don't have the same feeling about Sanchez.

Besides, we can always fall back on Thigpen if we have to...

Hmmm, I'm in a different boat. The more I think about Stafford, the more I think he reminds me of Cutler, and that's not the kind of QB I want.

Give me Cassel or Sanchez.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-23-2009, 09:54 AM

When has Matt Stafford ever showed the kind of petulance that Jay Cutler has?

htismaqe · 03-23-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

When has Matt Stafford ever showed the kind of petulance that Jay Cutler has?

He hasn't.

But he has shown the same propensity to do completely reeruned things on the field on Saturdays.

I've been down on Cutler since he came out. It really has nothing to do with the latest sideshow act...

**Kyle DeLexus** · 03-23-2009, 10:04 AM

Its my opinion here, but I think Matthew Stafford will be a star in the league in a couple years. He's got everything and he's extremely bright. He knows football, and he does a lot of film work.

raybec 4 · 03-23-2009, 10:05 AM

If we do have the choice of any non tackle, does any team value one QB highly enough over the other to trade up? I think probably not, but who knows.

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