Chiefs Would the Chiefs beat Texas?

Hootie · 10-20-2008, 10:18 AM

This should usually be an obvious answer...as Texas will probably have 10-15 players that currently play (whether they are freshmen, sophomores, juniors or seniors) drafted...so obviously KC will be the more talented team.

But with Thigpen at QB, and our coaching staff, would we be able to gameplan to beat Texas?

If so, how much do we win by?

This would be much more interesting than what we usually get on Sundays...

triple · 10-20-2008, 10:19 AM

fucking reerun

**Saulbadguy** · 10-20-2008, 10:19 AM

keg in kc · 10-20-2008, 10:20 AM

I'm not sure they could beat Texas Christian.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-20-2008, 10:22 AM

FFS.

The Chiefs could run their reerun offense and would rack up 500 yards on the ground against Texas.

It's pretty simple.

Run your base cover 2. The Chiefs front four would apply constant pressure to McCoy...literally every time he dropped back to pass he'd be running for his life. They would have no running lanes, and the Chiefs defense would have considerably more speed from sideline to sideline.

You can sucker McCoy into throwing to what appears to be an open receiver and jump every route, or use the corner's closing speed to contest or pick nearly every throw.

On offense you can just run between the tackles and annihilate them. If you want to get fancy, just have Thigpen throw it as far as he can and watch Bowe, Darling, Franklin, or whomever run by their secondary.

If the Chiefs played whistle to whistle, it would probably be something on the order of 91-0.

beach tribe · 10-20-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

FFS.

The Chiefs could run their reerun offense and would rack up 500 yards on the ground against Texas.

It's pretty simple.

Run your base cover 2. The Chiefs front four would apply constant pressure to McCoy...literally every time he dropped back to pass he'd be running for his life. They would have no running lanes, and the Chiefs defense would have considerably more speed from sideline to sideline.

You can sucker McCoy into throwing to what appears to be an open receiver and jump every route, or use the corner's closing speed to contest or pick nearly every throw.

On offense you can just run between the tackles and annihilate them. If you want to get fancy, just have Thigpen throw it as far as he can and watch Bowe, Darling, Franklin, or whomever run by their secondary.

If the Chiefs played whistle to whistle, it would probably be something on the order of 91-0.

Although I believe we would win by a wide margin, if this post were true, then Bowe, Franklin, and Darling(serioiusly Darling?) would have been completely unstoppable in College. I don't know who Darling's QB was but, But the other two had QB's better than Thiggy in college. Abert is 1 year removed from college at a different position, and I'm not sure A. Jones, and Nicewonger would dominate the way you think.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-20-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Although I believe we would win by a wide margin, if this post were true, then Bowe, Franklin, and Darling(serioiusly Darling?) would have been completely unstoppable in College. I don't know who Darling's QB was but, But the other two had QB's better than Thiggy in college. Abert is 1 year removed from college at a different position, and I'm not sure A. Jones, and Nicewonger would dominate the way you think.

You know why Mizzou didn't just have Franklin run deep every play? Because the line couldn't protect long enough and Daniel's arm wasn't strong enough to get it to him.

Texas would lay their corners literally 10 yards off the line of scrimmage on every play.

Even Tony is going to be about as fast as their safeties, and a guy like Cottam would just eat them up over the middle.

That's not to mention the fact that no one could run with Charles, and Brian Waters could cave in half their D-Line by himself.

This argument is so stupid it's just offensive.

beach tribe · 10-20-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You know why Mizzou didn't just have Franklin run deep every play? Because the line couldn't protect long enough and Daniel's arm wasn't strong enough to get it to him.

Texas would lay their corners literally 10 yards off the line of scrimmage on every play.

Even Tony is going to be about as fast as their safeties, and a guy like Cottam would just eat them up over the middle.

That's not to mention the fact that no one could run with Charles, and Brian Waters could cave in half their D-Line by himself.

This argument is so stupid it's just offensive.

You're getting no argument from me. I know we would win by 50, but you're explanation holds no water.
Jamarcus Russel had ALL DAY to throw to Bowe in College.
He's bigger faster, and has a stronger arm, than Thiggy and accoroding to you, he could have just thrown it up to Bowe everytime, and been successful.

Again, I'm not arguing that it would even be a contest.

|Zach| · 10-20-2008, 10:26 AM

This is the funny thing with message boards and sports talk radio. As terrible as the Chiefs out there...with as many real and observable reasons to slam them people still feel like that have to make up and exaggerate stuff to get their points across.

RJ · 10-20-2008, 10:32 AM

Is Texas on our schedule? What week do we play them?

Hootie · 10-20-2008, 10:36 AM

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Is Texas on our schedule? What week do we play them?

Well if we'd really win by 91, I wish they were...it would be nice to see us actually execute something every once in a while on offense...other than a miracle catch in triple coverage.

Hootie · 10-20-2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

This is the funny thing with message boards and sports talk radio. As terrible as the Chiefs out there...with as many real and observable reasons to slam them people still feel like that have to make up and exaggerate stuff to get their points across.

Lets focus on just the offense then...

Other than Bowe, Gonzalez and LJ...we have a bunch of project players and late round picks playing offense for us...

Would the Tyler Thigpen lead Chiefs offense with Herm & Co. at the helm with a typical BCS college defense win a National Championship? Would they be unstoppable?

I have my doubts. I think they'd be fine as long as they consistently handed the ball to LJ...but if they try to air it out I think Thigpen would **** up at a consistent rate just like he does now.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-20-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Lets focus on just the offense then...

Other than Bowe, Gonzalez and LJ...we have a bunch of project players and late round picks playing offense for us...

Would the Tyler Thigpen lead Chiefs offense with Herm & Co. at the helm with a typical BCS college defense win a National Championship? Would they be unstoppable?

I have my doubts. I think they'd be fine as long as they consistently handed the ball to LJ...but if they try to air it out I think Thigpen would **** up at a consistent rate just like he does now.

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You do realize that guys like Darling, Franklin, and Webb can just run by that entire secondary, and that their CBs would be shucked off like flies if they tried to tackle Bowe 1 on 1?

The offensive line of Kansas City would just annihilate their D-Line...annihilate.

You are seriously talking about a 5A state champion team playing a 1A state championship team.

Thigpen would literally have all day to throw every play.

There almost isn't a proper way to quantify how big of a leap there is in quality from College to the NFL.

beach tribe · 10-20-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

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You do realize that guys like Darling, Franklin, and Webb can just run by that entire secondary, and that their CBs would be shucked off like flies if they tried to tackle Bowe 1 on 1?

The offensive line of Kansas City would just annihilate their D-Line...annihilate.

You are seriously talking about a 5A state champion team playing a 1A state championship team.

Thigpen would literally have all day to throw every play.

There almost isn't a proper way to quantify how big of a leap there is in quality from College to the NFL.

I agree we would destroy them, but it's more like a 1a state championship team against, a 5A 2-9 team.

|Zach| · 10-20-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Lets focus on just the offense then...

Other than Bowe, Gonzalez and LJ...we have a bunch of project players and late round picks playing offense for us...

Would the Tyler Thigpen lead Chiefs offense with Herm & Co. at the helm with a typical BCS college defense win a National Championship? Would they be unstoppable?

I have my doubts. I think they'd be fine as long as they consistently handed the ball to LJ...but if they try to air it out I think Thigpen would **** up at a consistent rate just like he does now.

And you would be wrong.

NFL project players with experience against NFL players > High level college players

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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7149572	FFS. The Chiefs could run their reerun offense and would rack up 500 yards on the ground against Texas. It's pretty simple. Run your base cover 2. The Chiefs front four would apply constant pressure to McCoy...literally every time he dropped back to pass he'd be running for his life. They would have no running lanes, and the Chiefs defense would have considerably more speed from sideline to sideline. You can sucker McCoy into throwing to what appears to be an open receiver and jump every route, or use the corner's closing speed to contest or pick nearly every throw. On offense you can just run between the tackles and annihilate them. If you want to get fancy, just have Thigpen throw it as far as he can and watch Bowe, Darling, Franklin, or whomever run by their secondary. If the Chiefs played whistle to whistle, it would probably be something on the order of 91-0. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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