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Actually, watching our second round pick this year (Cassel and Vrabel), I don't see how the trade was anything but a very good to excellent move at the least. It gave the team the opportunity to be more competitive on both sides of the ball sooner rather than later. As well, while not the most flashy of picks, it looks like the Jackson pick was solid, considering the near night and day difference in the run defense from last season to this one. At the end of last season, it might have been a toss up between which was worse - the O line or the D line. |
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10-18-2009, 09:01 PM
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10-18-2009, 09:14 PM
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I think a better idea would be to look at career backups who actually were handed the keys...like Cassel The Good: Kurt Warner Tom Brady Trent Green Jake Delhomme Mark Brunell Matt Hasselbeck The Bad: Derek Anderson Scott Mitchell David Garrard Tony Romo Rob Johnson Warner and Brady are tough to categorize but they could have ended up 1 year wonders TBD: Kyle Orton (if extended), Matt Cassel Id try to come up with a better list but Im lazy |
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10-18-2009, 09:16 PM
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10-18-2009, 10:34 PM
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SB II: Bart Starr; 17th round SBIII: Joe Namath; 1st round SBIV: Len Dawson; 1st round SBV: Johnny Unitas; 9th round SBVI: Roger Staubach; 10th round SBVII: Bob Greise; 1st round SBVIII: Bob Greise; 1st round SBIX: Terry Bradshaw; 1st round SBX: Terry Bradshaw; 1st round SBXI: Ken Stabler; 2nd round SBXII: Roger Staubach; 10th round SBXIII: Terry Bradshaw; 1st round SBXIV: Terry Bradshaw; 1st round SBXV: Jim Plunkett; 1st round SBXVI: Joe Montana; 3rd round SBXVII: Joe Theismann; 4th round XVIII: Jim Plunkett; 1st round XIX: Joe Montana; 3rd round XX: Jim McMahon; 1st round XXI: Phil Simms; 1st round XXII: Doug Williams; 1st round XXIII: Joe Montana; 3rd round XXIV: Joe Montana; 3rd round XXV: Jeff Hostetler; 3rd round XXVI: Mark Rypien; 6th round XXVII: Troy Aikman; 1st round XXVIII: Troy Aikman; 1st round XXIX: Steve Young; 1st round XXX: Troy Aikman; 1st round XXXI: Brett Favre; 2nd round XXXII: John Elway; 1st round XXXIII: John Elway; 1st round XXXIV: Kurt Warner; Undrafted XXXV: Trent Dilfer; 1st round XXXVI: Tom Brady; 6th round XXXVII: Brad Johnson; 9th round XXXVIII: Tom Brady; 6th round XXXIX: Tom Brady; 6th round XL: Ben Rothlisberger; 1st round XLI: Peyton Manning; 1st round XLII: Eli Manning; 1st round So, in theory, no, no 7th round quarterback has won the Super Bowl. However, we've got a 17th rounder, a 10th rounder, a couple of 9th rounders, some 6th rounders, and even one that was completely undrafted. I don't think that the round that a QB was picked is at all indicative of their capabilities, desire, maturity, etc., which elevates them to Super Bowl level. Sure, you know that there are some good ones in round one. But there are also just as many that go complete busto. Maybe more actually. So, basically, I think that you trying to say that just because Cassel was a 7th round pick and because of that singularly, he'll never win a Super Bowl is total bull. |
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Bart Starr fell to the 17th round because he missed senior season to injury. Those two picks kind of skew those numbers.
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Good ****ing God, I'm glad I wasn't around the computer when this thread was going hot and heavy.
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Without taking into consideration the disparity in talent around him. Sorry, but even the most mediocre QB's should be able to win a game when the running back gets over 200 yards rushing. He will get better, but that was pathetic. And, with as much as you talk him up... I figured you should at least acknowlege his failure today. Perhaps I missed it. |
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Aaron Brooks
Marc Bulger Elvis Grbac Steve Bono Jeff Hostetler Gus Frerotte Tommy Maddox Bubby Brister Some other career backups.
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Add Rich Gannon to the good Maddox wasn't given an extention, was he? Id argue that Frerotte was never given such a role |
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And a few years doesn't make it "career". |
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