Football Sanchez? - Page 9

Hootie · 10-18-2009, 04:45 PM

Man...sure glad we didn't draft him...he looks terrible.

**kysirsoze** · 10-18-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf

Which is exactly why we didn't draft him. Could you imagine how many picks he's have if he was playing on the disaster that is the Chiefs? That's how you David Carr a rookie. That's why Pioli went with the vet who has had to fight for his NFL life, cause there's going to be a lot of adversity in being the QB here...

QFT

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-18-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf

Which is exactly why we didn't draft him. Could you imagine how many picks he's have if he was playing on the disaster that is the Chiefs? That's how you David Carr a rookie. That's why Pioli went with the vet who has had to fight for his NFL life, cause there's going to be a lot of adversity in being the QB here...

I didn't realize that drafting a rookie meant he started in game 1.

Duly noted.

**DeezNutz** · 10-18-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf

Which is exactly why we didn't draft him. Could you imagine how many picks he's have if he was playing on the disaster that is the Chiefs? That's how you David Carr a rookie. That's why Pioli went with the vet who has had to fight for his NFL life, cause there's going to be a lot of adversity in being the QB here...

Just because a QB is drafted doesn't mean he must start week 1.

**DeezNutz** · 10-18-2009, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

In probably the same way the Chiefs fans are grilling Cassel. I realize that he comes into KC with a lot more experience, but I don't think that justifies grilling him for not playing outstanding in a situation where he's essentially asked to score points on his own.

Apples and oranges. And most legit criticisms of Cassel account for the general shit that is the team.

Pablo · 10-18-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I didn't realize that drafting a rookie meant he started in game 1.

Duly noted.

He'd have been in by Week 4. No sane head coach is willing to tie his career to Brodie Croyle and Tyler Thigpen.

Hootie · 10-18-2009, 05:44 PM

26 TD's 28 INT's his rookie year hamas

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-18-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

In probably the same way the Chiefs fans are grilling Cassel. I realize that he comes into KC with a lot more experience, but I don't think that justifies grilling him for not playing outstanding in a situation where he's essentially asked to score points on his own.

No one is expecting him to be 2007 Tom Brady. What fans should expect that they haven't yet gotten is that he has a good internal clock, doesn't take unnecessary sacks, and displays accuracy and touch when given time.

That's not to say that he's been completely worthless. Again, a false choice put forth by dumbasses who can't think for themselves (not you, the Pioli Zombies and Hooties of the world). He's a tough sonofabitch, and he plays better in the 4th than he does in the 1st. Hell, he's shown as much late game ability as Trent Green @ this point in his career.

**DeezNutz** · 10-18-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo

He'd have been in by Week 4. No sane head coach is willing to tie his career to Brodie Croyle and Tyler Thigpen.

Sign a vet.

Thigpen isn't a QB.

Hootie · 10-18-2009, 05:45 PM

dude mark sanchez is awesome....he totally won this game for the Jets! Yes!

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-18-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac

26 TD's 28 INT's his rookie year hamas

Thank you for the correction.

keg in kc · 10-18-2009, 05:46 PM

Calling Cassel's play sub-par is a bit much. What exactly are people expecting from him? It's nigh on miraculous he's able to manage the game as well as he has in the situation the franchise has put him in. How's he supposed get into a rhythm with a line that can't protect and receivers that apparently put cooking spray on their hands instead of stick-em? Beyond that there's been no semblence of a running game to open up the pass. But somehow he's still able to put the team into a position to win virtually every week. Put him on that Jets team and he's probably a 60-65% passer on a 5-, soon to be 6-, win team.

Which isn't saying Sanchez won't be a stud in a year or three...

But come on. What would any quarterback look like behind center on the '09 Chiefs? How good would Tom Brady or Peyton Manning or Drew Brees or anybody else you can name look behind this line throwing to this group of skill players? How comfortable to poised could any quarterback look in this situation?

How about a little history. Anybody remember Trent Green? By this point in '01, he'd already thrown 9 interceptions. And as bad as that team was, the line was far and away better than this year's, and the receivers were at worst equal to what they're running out there in '09. If Cassel was showing that kind of tendency, turning the ball over, I might see it as sub-par. But that's just not what's happening. Has his accuracy been off at times? Sure. And my guess is the more consistent the team around him becomes, the more confident and consistent he becomes. Just like Green in '02 and beyond.

Cassel right now is being asked to turn chicken shit into chicken parmesan. I figure the choices are to be mad that he's only able to give us chicken strips right now, or to be encouraged that he's able to get as much as he has out of what he has to work with.

Personally, I think it's a good sign for the future.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-18-2009, 05:47 PM

This is ****ing recklessly idiotic...

Wow, and that was before I saw the fake.

Rex Ryan may well be a ****ing reerun.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-18-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Apples and oranges. And most legit criticisms of Cassel account for the general shit that is the team.

It's not apples and oranges. Peyton was asked to win games by himself because the rest of his team sucked. The Jets were fortunate enough to be in a situation where the team around their young QB was strong enough that they didn't expect him to be a savior for the team this season.

The criticisms of Cassel expect Cassel to play very well in spite of playing around general shit. While he has experience, isn't that a little tough to have those kinds of expectations?

DaWolf · 10-18-2009, 05:48 PM

So we draft a rookie QB at three, pay him multi millions of dollars, and sit him behind, who, Brodie Croyle? Is that really going to make this a better football team? You really think after Brodie gets sacked 35 times and breaks his foot the guy was still going to sit on the bench?

I think that Pioli would prefer to get a foundation set in here where when we are in a position that we need to develop a long term starter, we have the luxury of drafting a guy and letting him sit for the year. This team isn't there yet...

Hootie · 10-18-2009, 05:48 PM

wow...Weatherford has a better arm than Sanchez...can't believe we let him get away

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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Calling Cassel's play sub-par is a bit much. What exactly are people expecting from him? It's nigh on miraculous he's able to manage the game as well as he has in the situation the franchise has put him in. How's he supposed get into a rhythm with a line that can't protect and receivers that apparently put cooking spray on their hands instead of stick-em? Beyond that there's been no semblence of a running game to open up the pass. But somehow he's still able to put the team into a position to win virtually every week. Put him on that Jets team and he's probably a 60-65% passer on a 5-, soon to be 6-, win team. Which isn't saying Sanchez won't be a stud in a year or three... But come on. What would any quarterback look like behind center on the '09 Chiefs? How good would Tom Brady or Peyton Manning or Drew Brees or anybody else you can name look behind this line throwing to this group of skill players? How comfortable to poised could any quarterback look in this situation? How about a little history. Anybody remember Trent Green? By this point in '01, he'd already thrown 9 interceptions. And as bad as that team was, the line was far and away better than this year's, and the receivers were at worst equal to what they're running out there in '09. If Cassel was showing that kind of tendency, turning the ball over, I might see it as sub-par. But that's just not what's happening. Has his accuracy been off at times? Sure. And my guess is the more consistent the team around him becomes, the more confident and consistent he becomes. Just like Green in '02 and beyond. Cassel right now is being asked to turn chicken shit into chicken parmesan. I figure the choices are to be mad that he's only able to give us chicken strips right now, or to be encouraged that he's able to get as much as he has out of what he has to work with. Personally, I think it's a good sign for the future.
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10-18-2009, 05:48 PM	#134
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	So we draft a rookie QB at three, pay him multi millions of dollars, and sit him behind, who, Brodie Croyle? Is that really going to make this a better football team? You really think after Brodie gets sacked 35 times and breaks his foot the guy was still going to sit on the bench? I think that Pioli would prefer to get a foundation set in here where when we are in a position that we need to develop a long term starter, we have the luxury of drafting a guy and letting him sit for the year. This team isn't there yet...
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	wow...Weatherford has a better arm than Sanchez...can't believe we let him get away
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