Chiefs Rumor from Shanahan's son - Page 13

Garcia Bronco · 01-22-2009, 09:12 AM

I talked to Kyle Shanahan last night, Mike's son. I ran into him at Cherry Creek Mall in the Oakley Store here in Denver. He said his dad is going to coach this year and most likely for the Chiefs. There is one other team out there that could land his Dad, but KC is closer to Denver and Shanahan would like to be as close to Colorado as possible. Anyway, take it for what it's worth.

bowener · 01-22-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf

As a gameday coach, I'd go to war with Shanarat on my sideline any day. It gives us two edges IMO, the guy will do everything in his power to go 4-0 against both Denver and Oakland every year. And he is a solid gameday coach. And if he is truly going to coach here, he's already accepted the fact that he will work WITH Pioli to bring in new players, not tell Pioli who to bring in. That seemed to be his downfall in Denver.

The only thing that would worry me most would be his ability to put together a defense. He needs to hire a solid defensive staff, otherwise we're going to go through the same defensive deficiencies we've seen this decade...

I have a question about this. Is it more likely that Pioli will pick the assistants, or not? Knowing Shanahan's past, I wouldn't be surprised if Pioli let him pick the OC, but not the DC, and just told Shan to turn over control of the D to his DC or something. I dont really know how it works, but I thought that was part of 'total control of the team'.

Reerun_KC · 01-22-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefPote

If shanahan is given the job, should we change the "rat" icon to something more respectful? So many problems......

Fair enough, but Herm's should go to this after tomorrow...

Reerun_KC · 01-22-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

No, he'll always be a rat. He'll just be our rat. Like "Ben."

This...

DaWolf · 01-22-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

I don't think "full control" is an issue with Pioli. By that I mean, he seemed to indicate that they always went with the pick that both he and the coach agreed upon. If he's amicable, then it doesn't have to be a my way or the highway situation.

If I am Pioli, I trust Rat with all the offensive draft positions, let him select any running back he wants in the middle rounds, and tell him to

and STFD when we have to roll with defense and free agents...

BigChiefFan · 01-22-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bowener

I have a question about this. Is it more likely that Pioli will pick the assistants, or not? Knowing Shanahan's past, I wouldn't be surprised if Pioli let him pick the OC, but not the DC, and just told Shan to turn over control of the D to his DC or something. I dont really know how it works, but I thought that was part of 'total control of the team'.

They'll find somebody they BOTH AGREE ON.

Mr_Tomahawk · 01-22-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KC4EVER

How it is that all the Herm haters can put everything on him is beyond me

I truly think Carl had him handcuffed for all of his first year and most of his second. Clark bought into what Herm wanted to do and the mistakes via the draft and FA falls directly on the shoulders of Carl and Dick!

We all know it takes time to build a great football team and you can't do crap without depth at many key positions which was derailed by aging vets. Whatever happens, happens, but I think Herm got the short end of the stick on this one. I know I'm in the minority when it comes down to keeping Herm, but so be it!

See the Dolphin and Falcons.

May not be 'great' ....but it didn't take them 2+ seasons to rebuild and become playoff bound...

...just sayin.

FloridaMan88 · 01-22-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

There is one other team out there that could land his Dad, but KC is closer to Denver and Shanahan would like to be as close to Colorado as possible. Anyway, take it for what it's worth.

What other NFL team could land Shanahan as a head coach at this point? Not the Raiders obviously. Unless Kyle Shanahan thinks a team who hasn't fired their head coach yet (like the Chiefs) is going to do so and hire Shanahan.

FringeNC · 01-22-2009, 11:22 AM

If we hire Shanahan, whether we go to a 3-4 or not will be very interesting. I think we will. I think Pioli will be making most of the personnel decisions on defense, and they will be shared on offense.

wildwill2112 · 01-22-2009, 11:22 AM

This sucks, if it is true: cuss:

KC4EVER · 01-22-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

See the Dolphin and Falcons.

May not be 'great' ....but it didn't take them 2+ seasons to rebuild and become playoff bound...

...just sayin.

I agree with these teams getting things turned around in a hurry, but think Herm's only had one to do what he's wanted to do since coming here.

bowener · 01-22-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KC4EVER

How it is that all the Herm haters can put everything on him is beyond me

I truly think Carl had him handcuffed for all of his first year and most of his second. Clark bought into what Herm wanted to do and the mistakes via the draft and FA falls directly on the shoulders of Carl and Dick!

We all know it takes time to build a great football team and you can't do crap without depth at many key positions which was derailed by aging vets. Whatever happens, happens, but I think Herm got the short end of the stick on this one. I know I'm in the minority when it comes down to keeping Herm, but so be it!

This isnt meant as a bashing, but what has Herm done in his entire career as an NFL head coach, that has you so convinced that he can do anything better than some, if not most, of the candidates out there? What traits does he possess that you think will/do make him a capable leader that can take a team from 2-14 to a championship within the next 2 seasons, which will likely require training and teaching a rookie QB for the NFL?

DaWolf · 01-22-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

What other NFL team could land Shanahan as a head coach at this point? Not the Raiders obviously. Unless Kyle Shanahan thinks a team who hasn't fired their head coach yet (like the Chiefs) is going to do so and hire Shanahan.

IMO Dallas, they're sort of like us, the owner has said he wants everyone to return, but as the days go by that team is imploding more and more, and Jones may need to make a move soon ASAP to save face. I wouldn't be shocked to see Phillips out in the next day or two. That's just me speculating...

**alanm** · 01-22-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

i don't recall Garcia Bronco ever posting bullshit before

so i'll take him at his word.

It's not like he works for WPI. Guess I don't have any opinion on it one way or another if it is true. Probably the same as when they hired Vermeil. I just hope he stays the hell away from the defense and they don't have a revolving door at DC like they do in Denver.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-22-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

Why doesn't the interview of Herm count? I think it's stupid that it won't.

Because he's already employed and under contract.

Why is this so difficult for so many to understand?

DaWolf · 01-22-2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

See the Dolphin and Falcons.

May not be 'great' ....but it didn't take them 2+ seasons to rebuild and become playoff bound...

...just sayin.

I also believe John Fox took Carolina's 31 ranked defense and his first year had them ranked #1, and it took Marty and Wade Phillips one year to turn around a crap San Diego team and bottom feeding defense.

Herm's issue IMO is not in the theory of rebuilding a team with young guys, it is in the way he's gone about doing it...

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