Later LJ

[RedThat]

Chiefs | Johnson probably will be shopped
Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:33:58 -0800

Bill Williamson, of ESPN.com, reports the Kansas City Chiefs probably will peruse trade options for RB Larry Johnson this offseason. He would probably be released if the Chiefs can't find a trade partner.

[007]

What a stupid report. If the Chiefs can't fine a trade partner he will be released. What team in their right mind would trade if he will be available anyway?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Guru

What a stupid report. If the Chiefs can't fine a trade partner he will be released. What team in their right mind would trade if he will be available anyway?

Detroit?


Just sayin...

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

If I had an iron-clad guarantee that Pioli and Shannahan would draft Sanchez, I would wipe the slate clean and voice no further objections.

But that is the ONLY scenario in which that would happen. Anything less is just Mickey Mouse bullshit.

That just might be happening right now, Shanny lobbying for Sanchez with the 3rd pick so he can have his "QBOTF" in KC.

Sanchez has only 16 starts on a loaded team which makes it alot easier to perform. Matt Ryan didn't have that in BC and still performed well. Doesn't that make Sanchez somewhat of a risky pick at 3?

[Taco John]

LJ is the type of runningback that Shanahan trades away. If Johnson can't block or catch, he's got no place in Shanahan's system.

I don't doubt Larry's ability to run the ball, but Shanahan has an ethic of being a "football player." That means blocking and catching.

Further, Johnson's attitude would not last in Shanahan's lockerroom for very long. Once you're in Shanahan's dog house, you don't get out of it.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by sportsshrink

That just might be happening right now, Shanny lobbying for Sanchez with the 3rd pick so he can have his "QBOTF" in KC.

Sanchez has only 16 starts on a loaded team which makes it alot easier to perform. Matt Ryan didn't have that in BC and still performed well. Doesn't that make Sanchez somewhat of a risky pick at 3?

So say the naysayers and "experts", but these are the same people that judged Flowers as not being worthy of first-round.

Mark's skill-set is untouched by any other QB in THIS draft OR the next. I'm just one person, but his signing to the Chiefs is a deal-sealer of the highest magnitude for me.

[xbarretx]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

So say the naysayers and "experts", but these are the same people that judged Flowers as not being worthy of first-round.

Mark's skill-set is untouched by any other QB in THIS draft OR the next. I'm just one person, but his signing to the Chiefs is a deal-sealer of the highest magnitude for me.

well if we go 3 - 4 i'd bet the farm we dont go QB at 3 and we trade down to try and fill more gaps on the D side. so who knows, might not matter much who is there at 3 if we need to give our defense a shot of players who CAN play 3 - 4

if we went QB though and it was sanchez... i coulnt be mad b/c at least were making an effort at getting a QBOTF and not trying to salvage other team castoffs and or attempting to luck into a late round diamond...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by xbarretx

well if we go 3 - 4 i'd bet the farm we dont go QB at 3 and we trade down to try and fill more gaps on the D side. so who knows, might not matter much who is there at 3 if we need to give our defense a shot of players who CAN play 3 - 4

if we went QB though and it was sanchez... i coulnt be mad b/c at least were making an effort at getting a QBOTF and not trying to salvage other team castoffs and or attempting to luck into a late round diamond...

That's my take.
You go and spend the bucks on Pioli, you should be operating in a no-compromise, "do it right, or don't do it at all" way.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Taco John

LJ is the type of runningback that Shanahan trades away. If Johnson can't block or catch, he's got no place in Shanahan's system.

I don't doubt Larry's ability to run the ball, but Shanahan has an ethic of being a "football player." That means blocking and catching.

Further, Johnson's attitude would not last in Shanahan's lockerroom for very long. Once you're in Shanahan's dog house, you don't get out of it.

Larry can catch. That he can't is an urban myth.

His blocking is questionable.

[xbarretx]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

That's my take.
You go and spend the bucks on Pioli, you should be operating in a no-compromise, "do it right, or don't do it at all" way.

but i hope you dont discount the first part of my comment too much. trading down and getting more first day picks (that turn out good solid players) on the D side of the ball could help whomever we have drafted (or thiggy) at QB. hell if our D can never stop anyone, then were always playing from behind. its like our offense is always in a two minute drill b/c were always playing from behind.

[xbarretx]

Originally Posted by Claythan

Larry can catch. That he can't is an urban myth.

His blocking is questionable.

!

thats what im talking about Clayton

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by xbarretx

well if we go 3 - 4 i'd bet the farm we dont go QB at 3 and we trade down to try and fill more gaps on the D side. so who knows, might not matter much who is there at 3 if we need to give our defense a shot of players who CAN play 3 - 4

if we went QB though and it was sanchez... i coulnt be mad b/c at least were making an effort at getting a QBOTF and not trying to salvage other team castoffs and or attempting to luck into a late round diamond...

Mayock say's this draft is very good for a 3/4 D players this year.

[xbarretx]

Originally Posted by sportsshrink

Mayock say's this draft is very good for a 3/4 D players this year.

really? sweet, lets hope hes right... IF we go it or... if we find good trading trading partners with teams who need some of them if we stay 4 - 3


p.s. no im not saying we SHOULD trade down.. im just saying its nice to have that as a possibility (regardless of its actual chances of occuring)

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by xbarretx

but i hope you dont discount the first part of my comment too much. trading down and getting more first day picks (that turn out good solid players) on the D side of the ball could help whomever we have drafted (or thiggy) at QB. hell if our D can never stop anyone, then were always playing from behind. its like our offense is always in a two minute drill b/c were always playing from behind.

I don't discount it, I just believe we're looking at a draft where the Chiefs are in a position to pull the trigger and should.

I can see a draft on one 2nd-round LB, and maybe a 3rd-round lineman or DE. But I'm convinced we'll be looking at FA for augmentation to the existing defensive and O-line framework.

But who the hell knows for sure when it comes to the One Arrowhead Nuthouse these days?

[nose]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

For the last time:

Charles is not an every down back.

Hes most effective with 10-15 touches a game with an occasional 20 touch game mixed in every now and then.

really glad your such the expert and know so much more than everyone else that your the last word and defining analyst of nfl players makes everything so much easier for everyone else!

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

If I had an iron-clad guarantee that Pioli and Shannahan would draft Sanchez, I would wipe the slate clean and voice no further objections.

But that is the ONLY scenario in which that would happen. Anything less is just Mickey Mouse bullshit.

Dude. If Shanny is hired, you can take it to the mother****in bank that Sanchez is a Chief. Unless someone sneaks up to number 2, Shanny = Sanchez. Buhlee dat.