Chiefs 2013 QB Class - Page 24

O.city · 12-11-2012, 10:06 AM

This was posted in another thread by Milkman, but it got overlooked so I'm making a thread out of it.

I know, another QB thread. But this needs to be put out there for some of the "posters" here to see and think about.

The top three in this years class are in no particular order:

Geno Smith
Tyler Wilson
Matt Barkley

Thats not counting Bray, Glennon, Nassib, etc. Who are all talented in their own right.

So, many posters here want to say, "no not this year, this class is awful don't take one, there isn't a Luck or RGIII in the bunch", which isn't necessarily false.

No there isn't a once in a decade guy. Which is probably what Luck was. Hell even more there have been 2 guys of his stature come out in the last 20 or so years. Luck and Manning.

Yet there are franchise QB's all over the league. How is that so you may ask?

Lets take a look at the last 5 QB classes top 3 guys to come out and get drafted, taking out 2012's class.

2007
Jamarcus Russel
Brady Quinn
Kevin Kolb

2008
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
Brian Brohm

2009
Matt Stafford
Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman

2010
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Jimmy Clausen

2011
Cam Newton
Blaine Gabbert
Jake Locker

Look at those classes and no, you have to evaluate them at the time they were picked, not what they are now, we don't know what this years class will be in the NFL.

I'd argue that this years class is more loaded than any of those classes at the top and from top to bottom.

So, you wanna argue that this isn't a year to take a QB? I'll argue that its a great year to take a QB.

Sorter · 12-12-2012, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

January 26th my birthday

Niceeee.

RunKC · 12-12-2012, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

The game is January 26...practices start a week prior.

Good question. I doubt he will risk it. He might now even throw at the combine and just wait for his pro day.

The Apostle · 12-12-2012, 12:43 AM

Seriously, has anyone considered going after Flynn? He lost the job in Seattle because Wilson went out of his mind, but he is still a solid QB. Why not draft some other talent and got for him in a trade? There are options other than a first pick QB.

Nightfyre · 12-12-2012, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...nkings/page/36

The Top 10 Overall Prospects

1. Tavon Austin, West Virginia: A Wes Welker/Percy Harvin hybrid.

2. DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson: Hopkins was the best receiver in the ACC.

3. Keenan Allen, Cal: If he had a quality QB, he would probably be a top-10 pick.

4. Stedman Bailey, West Virginia: 106 catches and 23 TDs. Ultra-productive.

5. Robert Woods, USC: 2011 star was relegated to the back burner in 2012.

6. Terrance Williams, Baylor: Better prospect than former Bear Kendall Wright.

7. Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech: His numbers may be inflated, but his speed isn’t.

8. Markus Wheaton, Oregon State: Fastest receiver in the country. He had 88 catches and 11 TDs.

9. Da’Rick Rogers, Tennessee Tech: Biggest boom-or-bust prospect in the class.

10. Justin Hunter, Tennessee: Great ability and size, but he has to stop the drops.

Bleacher report is a bunch of amateur bloggers. That would be like me posting my top ten wide receivers and you citing as a source.

RunKC · 12-12-2012, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The Apostle

Seriously, has anyone considered going after Flynn? He lost the job in Seattle because Wilson went out of his mind, but he is still a solid QB. Why not draft some other talent and got for him in a trade? There are options other than a first pick QB.

L.A. Chieffan · 12-12-2012, 12:45 AM

I'm down for Flynn. probably better than anything coming out in the draft.

Sorter · 12-12-2012, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Apostle

Seriously, has anyone considered going after Flynn? He lost the job in Seattle because Wilson went out of his mind, but he is still a solid QB. Why not draft some other talent and got for him in a trade? There are options other than a first pick QB.

OooooOOOoo, he in teh red now.

jaa1025 · 12-12-2012, 01:12 AM

This QB class is no different than every other QB class other than 2 since Peyton Manning. Just because Geno Smith isn't seen as Eli Manning, Andrew Luck, or RGIII then that doesnt mean that you shouldn't draft QB #1. Those were special circumstances.

Geno Smith is in the same class as every other QB coming out that's projected top 5 or so.

And to the posts about don't take a chance get Teo....Taking him at 1 would be a much bigger reach than Pioli taking Jackson at #3. You generally don't take anything but QB/LT/someone that can get to the QB that high. There are rare oportunities to get a Calvin Johnson type player etc, Teo isn't anywhere close to C. Johnson. Teo is going to be exposed at the combine. He runs a 4.8 40 and will likely be a 2 down 3-4 ILB in the pros

kcfanXIII · 12-12-2012, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025

This QB class is no different than every other QB class other than 2 since Peyton Manning. Just because Geno Smith isn't seen as Eli Manning, Andrew Luck, or RGIII then that doesnt mean that you shouldn't draft QB #1. Those were special circumstances.

Geno Smith is in the same class as every other QB coming out that's projected top 5 or so.

And to the posts about don't take a chance get Teo....Taking him at 1 would be a much bigger reach than Pioli taking Jackson at #3. You generally don't take anything but QB/LT/someone that can get to the QB that high. There are rare oportunities to get a Calvin Johnson type player etc, Teo isn't anywhere close to C. Johnson. Teo is going to be exposed at the combine. He runs a 4.8 40 and will likely be a 2 down 3-4 ILB in the pros

its better then jamarcus russel....

god, i had a whole sarcastic comment in my head, and i just can't even type it... these people that don't seem to get it, really drive me up a wall. go back through the thread, there is plenty of evidence to back up the draft a first round qb approach, and the only thing the "BPA" types can come up with are a pair of shit stained underpants. they're so scared of busting at the qb position, they shit themselves.

RunKC · 12-12-2012, 01:40 AM

People are saying the 2013 QB class sucks, but really has anyone seen who's due for next year?

The Marriotta QB from Oregon is Dennis Dixon part two, Hogan from Stanford is meh and Bridgewater looks really good but only has 1 year to go by.

Manziel could make it a better class, but I doubt he will come out. He's 20 and he's barely 200 lbs, plus I doubt he wants to leave so soon.

I'd take this class over next years in a heartbeat.

**007** · 12-12-2012, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I would HATE the Te'o pick. That should tell you everything you need to know.

Quoted for future reference.

Teo is a great college player but will end up just an average NFL player. He is not worthy of the #1 pick at all. FAns that think he is are just dumbasses.

**007** · 12-12-2012, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

I'm down for Flynn. probably better than anything coming out in the draft.

It wasn't enough for you to troll on Cassel. Now you have to pull this? BASTAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NJChiefsFan · 12-12-2012, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru

It wasn't enough for you to troll on Cassel. Now you have to pull this? BASTAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Another mult came out of the woodwork to pimp this as well. It's good to see L.A. Chiefsfan find something to troll about. He was getting boring being a normal Cassel hater.

RunKC · 12-12-2012, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

I'm down for Flynn. probably better than anything coming out in the draft.

So you want another Cassel huh? He got beat out by a 3rd round rookie midget.

Geno, Wilson and Barkley will be better than him.

**the Talking Can** · 12-12-2012, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Apostle

Seriously, has anyone considered going after Flynn? He lost the job in Seattle because Wilson went out of his mind, but he is still a solid QB. Why not draft some other talent and got for him in a trade? There are options other than a first pick QB.

seriously, has anyone told you to kill yourself yet?

12-11-2012, 10:06 AM
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-725936	2013 QB Class This was posted in another thread by Milkman, but it got overlooked so I'm making a thread out of it. I know, another QB thread. But this needs to be put out there for some of the "posters" here to see and think about. The top three in this years class are in no particular order: Geno Smith Tyler Wilson Matt Barkley Thats not counting Bray, Glennon, Nassib, etc. Who are all talented in their own right. So, many posters here want to say, "no not this year, this class is awful don't take one, there isn't a Luck or RGIII in the bunch", which isn't necessarily false. No there isn't a once in a decade guy. Which is probably what Luck was. Hell even more there have been 2 guys of his stature come out in the last 20 or so years. Luck and Manning. Yet there are franchise QB's all over the league. How is that so you may ask? Lets take a look at the last 5 QB classes top 3 guys to come out and get drafted, taking out 2012's class. 2007 Jamarcus Russel Brady Quinn Kevin Kolb 2008 Matt Ryan Joe Flacco Brian Brohm 2009 Matt Stafford Mark Sanchez Josh Freeman 2010 Sam Bradford Tim Tebow Jimmy Clausen 2011 Cam Newton Blaine Gabbert Jake Locker Look at those classes and no, you have to evaluate them at the time they were picked, not what they are now, we don't know what this years class will be in the NFL. I'd argue that this years class is more loaded than any of those classes at the top and from top to bottom. So, you wanna argue that this isn't a year to take a QB? I'll argue that its a great year to take a QB.
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12-12-2012, 12:43 AM	#348
The Apostle Rookie Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $10004925	Seriously, has anyone considered going after Flynn? He lost the job in Seattle because Wilson went out of his mind, but he is still a solid QB. Why not draft some other talent and got for him in a trade? There are options other than a first pick QB.
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12-12-2012, 12:45 AM	#351
L.A. Chieffan PLAY GOOD FOOTBALL Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: American Gardens Building Casino cash: $2688654	I'm down for Flynn. probably better than anything coming out in the draft.
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12-12-2012, 01:12 AM	#353
jaa1025 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10000898	This QB class is no different than every other QB class other than 2 since Peyton Manning. Just because Geno Smith isn't seen as Eli Manning, Andrew Luck, or RGIII then that doesnt mean that you shouldn't draft QB #1. Those were special circumstances. Geno Smith is in the same class as every other QB coming out that's projected top 5 or so. And to the posts about don't take a chance get Teo....Taking him at 1 would be a much bigger reach than Pioli taking Jackson at #3. You generally don't take anything but QB/LT/someone that can get to the QB that high. There are rare oportunities to get a Calvin Johnson type player etc, Teo isn't anywhere close to C. Johnson. Teo is going to be exposed at the combine. He runs a 4.8 40 and will likely be a 2 down 3-4 ILB in the pros
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12-12-2012, 01:40 AM	#355
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1640389	People are saying the 2013 QB class sucks, but really has anyone seen who's due for next year? The Marriotta QB from Oregon is Dennis Dixon part two, Hogan from Stanford is meh and Bridgewater looks really good but only has 1 year to go by. Manziel could make it a better class, but I doubt he will come out. He's 20 and he's barely 200 lbs, plus I doubt he wants to leave so soon. I'd take this class over next years in a heartbeat.
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