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Old 05-13-2019, 09:00 PM  
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How many acres would a person need to go feral?

I was thinking the other day about cattle, and what a pasture must look like to them. When you're a rancher and you open the gate for your cattle, they're essentially walking into a field of pizza, right? Their food is just lying there on the ground for them to take, and it's food that they really like. I guess more accurately, they're walking into a field that's mixed with pizza and broccoli and the occasional cookie, but that's fine.

So that got me thinking about how cool it would be as a human to experience this, and I suddenly realized - wow! That's how it was for humans for 99 percent of our history. We got our food by walking around and finding it. Sometimes it was on a bush or in a root and sometimes we had to kill it, but the truth is that for most of our history, the world was a big buffet and we wandered through it with a fork, a spear, and an atlatl.

So that got me thinking again. Could a person do that now? We talk about living "off the grid", but that's kind of a fiction. People living off the grid are still importing goods from civilization. They're buying canned goods and shotgun shells and Netflix videos. They're using agricultural techniques that were developed in Mesopotamia and optimized in Kansas.

So instead of that corrupt modern version of "living off the grid", let's go with a purist approach. You've got XX acres of land, and after a polite ramp up period to get it ready, you're going to be a hunter/gatherer. No growing crops allowed. You're going to wander the woods and valleys and plains, and you're going to hunt creatures and pick berries from wild bushes, and drink from streams. You'll only make clothing and tools and cups and netflix videos using local sources and materials. Nothing enters or leaves your property, ever.

How many acres of land would a person need to do this? I'm considering it as my next career.
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Old 05-14-2019, 05:23 AM   #16
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Side question, you ever thought how Hard it is to klll anything with your bear hands? It’s a tough out man. Especially without shoes. Think about trying to face or cat in a death match. Cat weighs what? 4 pounds you outweigh it by a factor of 40 and it’s going to be a hell of a long row to hoe to kill that little bastard.

Life is hard man.
Yeah, if you want to get ready for that, you might want to try eating some maggot infested meat first. Once you get used to that, you just might stand a chance.
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Old 05-14-2019, 05:39 AM   #17
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I take it from your description you are talking about being turned out into the wilderness completely naked, with no tools, weapons, or anything.
The odds of making past the first week or two are slim to none. You better be pretty good at flint knapping and hunting if you expect to last past that.
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Old 05-14-2019, 05:40 AM   #18
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An interesting discussion might be what skills you would need to survive in that fashion on a 1000 acres.
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Old 05-14-2019, 05:41 AM   #19
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Side question, you ever thought how Hard it is to klll anything with your bear hands? It’s a tough out man. Especially without shoes. Think about trying to face or cat in a death match. Cat weighs what? 4 pounds you outweigh it by a factor of 40 and it’s going to be a hell of a long row to hoe to kill that little bastard.

Life is hard man.
But if he had “bear” hands, it might be easier...
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Old 05-14-2019, 06:00 AM   #20
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Probably a moot point because we are soft bitches compared to the hard assed bastards that could live that way, and even then life span was like 30 years.

Even back then they relied on a pack of compadres to stay alive.
Agreed. There was a reason being banished was almost always a death sentence. Humans are good at a lot of things, but we’re definitely pack animals. We have no fur, no natural armor, and no natural weapons and our vision and sense of smell are poor compared to the competition. We just aren’t designed to survive as individuals.
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Old 05-14-2019, 06:09 AM   #21
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Old 05-14-2019, 06:12 AM   #22
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Old 05-14-2019, 06:40 AM   #23
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LOL.. yep.. what very particular set of skills would be necessary...
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Old 05-14-2019, 07:22 AM   #25
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This thread got me thinking... how do you buy netflix videos if you're off the grid?
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Does feral include a youtube pre-feral crash course?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAL...Sm8AlZyD3nQdBA

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