Chiefs Defensive Line - Page 3

chuxtrux · 04-17-2009, 12:40 PM

If they do move Hali to OLB in the 3-4, who are they going to have in the trenches. Dorsey isn't really suited to play in the middle in that kind of defense, do they move him outside and put Tyler at NT? And I guess put McBride in the other DE spot? Not that the defensive line can get much worse than last year, but it is still the one spot on the team that I have no idea what they are going to do with.

TheGuardian · 04-17-2009, 04:39 PM

Yeah his first couple of years really sucked. Oh wait, they didn't. My bad. Oh wait, no YOUR BAD. Got it.

kcxiv · 04-17-2009, 04:39 PM

lol, gotta love it when someone breaks it down, and the other guy just doesnt have anything, but i dont like him. lol

kcxiv · 04-17-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Yeah his first couple of years really sucked. Oh wait, they didn't. My bad. Oh wait, no YOUR BAD. Got it.

dude, you need to stick around here. I love all your ownage so far. The thing with people is they think one way and can never change their mind at anything.

Anyways, welcome aboard.

Mecca · 04-17-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

lol, gotta love it when someone breaks it down, and the other guy just doesnt have anything, but i dont like him. lol

What do you want me to tell him?

If someone can't see with their own eyes that Tamba Hali, is A not athletic, B gets hurt all the time, and C is not a 3-4 OLB, nothing I say is going to change his mind so I'm not going to go into great argument detail about it.

When Tamba Hali is getting beat around the edge by Trent Edwards, the argument is funny to have.

kcxiv · 04-17-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

What do you want me to tell him?

If someone can't see with their own eyes that Tamba Hali, is A not athletic, B gets hurt all the time, and C is not a 3-4 OLB, nothing I say is going to change his mind so I'm not going to go into great argument detail about it.

When Tamba Hali is getting beat around the edge by Trent Edwards, the argument is funny to have.

Hey, i dont like Tamba either, but he was a first round pick of ours and they will try to fit him in and see for themselves. I really do hope they find a role for him starting. I am not sure they will, but this other dude has been breaking it down exactly why. ITs more then alot of other people do here, including me. I dont know much about X's and O's.

I am anxious to see what they do. I really am.

Mecca · 04-17-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

Hey, i dont like Tamba either, but he was a first round pick of ours and they will try to fit him in and see for themselves. I really do hope they find a role for him starting. I am not sure they will, but this other dude has been breaking it down exactly why. ITs more then alot of other people do here, including me. I dont know much about X's and O's.

I am anxious to see what they do. I really am.

He wasn't a 1st round pick by these guys, this isn't Carl holding onto a guy for 5 years praying he produces something.

TheGuardian · 04-17-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

What do you want me to tell him?

If someone can't see with their own eyes that Tamba Hali, is A not athletic, B gets hurt all the time, and C is not a 3-4 OLB, nothing I say is going to change his mind so I'm not going to go into great argument detail about it.

Yet somehow the guy was athletic enough to...

a. play division I football
b. make it into the NFL as a first rounder
c. collect 15.5 sacks force 8 fumbles, and grab an interception in his first two years
d. is so injury prone that he has missed 1 game in three years
e. isn't going to be asked to PLAY OUTSIDE LINEBACKER IN A 2 GAP DEFENSE LIKE YOU KEEP GOING ON AND ON ABOUT

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When Tamba Hali is getting beat around the edge by Trent Edwards, the argument is funny to have.

The Colts should have cut that damned Dwight Freeney after that 3.5 sack season. Dummies. Guys like Freeney and Tamba will have down seasons because they play through injuries and it will hurt their stats, but they are still on the field.

You keep trying to argue points that you don't have a clue about. I mean, you can continue but I'm not sure what it will accomplish.

CupidStunt · 04-17-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm not going to go into great argument detail about it.

You're not going to go into "great argument" about it because you'd get schooled. The closest you've come to putting your hand in the dirt is giving your Bills buddy a reach-around.

Mecca · 04-17-2009, 04:49 PM

And look who arrives, the internet tough guy.

When you picked your new name did you decide to go with the one that described yourself the best?

Mecca · 04-17-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Yet somehow the guy was athletic enough to...

a. play division I football
b. make it into the NFL as a first rounder
c. collect 15.5 sacks force 8 fumbles, and grab an interception in his first two years
d. is so injury prone that he has missed 1 game in three years
e. isn't going to be asked to PLAY OUTSIDE LINEBACKER IN A 2 GAP DEFENSE LIKE YOU KEEP GOING ON AND ON ABOUT

The Colts should have cut that damned Dwight Freeney after that 3.5 sack season. Dummies. Guys like Freeney and Tamba will have down seasons because they play through injuries and it will hurt their stats, but they are still on the field.

You keep trying to argue points that you don't have a clue about. I mean, you can continue but I'm not sure what it will accomplish.

The fact that you are mentioning Freeney and Hali in any sort of comparison is funnier than all hell.

Not all ends can play OLB in a 3-4, not all of them are athletic in that regard, stop having a semantics argument. It makes you look dumb, either that or you really don't understand basic stuff like that.

You're essentially acting like any end can play OLB in the 3-4, that isn't the case.

shitgoose · 04-17-2009, 04:54 PM

Well, Hali had plenty of opportunities to step up last year and be the guy once we traded Allen. He really got it done too

. If he can't hack it as a DE, which is the position he was drafted to play, I don't see how we are going to have a high success rate moving him to a different position in an entirely new scheme.

Mecca · 04-17-2009, 04:56 PM

It's apparently not just me because in Aaron Maybins scouting report comes this line..

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scouti...ron-Maybin.php

"Other Nittany Lion defensive ends like Courtney Brown, Michael Haynes and Tamba Hali have not fared well in the pros"

TheGuardian · 04-17-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The fact that you are mentioning Freeney and Hali in any sort of comparison is funnier than all hell.

Not all ends can play OLB in a 3-4, not all of them are athletic in that regard, stop having a semantics argument. It makes you look dumb, either that or you really don't understand basic stuff like that.

You're essentially acting like any end can play OLB in the 3-4, that isn't the case.

Freeney and Hali were mentioned because they both had the same type of leg injury and had down seasons due to it. Apparently you can't follow the parallel here.

Second, you still don't get it. You really don't. We are not talking about a true 30 front here. This is something I have spelled out over and over and over again and you are oblivious to it. I'm not going to go into it anymore because obviously, you are immune to logic here.

I actually believe that it was you who asked for people to name one guy that didn't played outside linebacker in a 3-4 that wasn't a defensive end. I named several. So which is it? You need to be an end to play outside linebacker? Or now that doesn't matter? What it really appears like to me is that you are really just a master, of complete rectum talk. Yessir I believe you must have a PhD in that because you don't have a damned clue as to what you are talking about here.

TheGuardian · 04-17-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by shitgoose

Well, Hali had plenty of opportunities to step up last year and be the guy once we traded Allen. He really got it done too

. If he can't hack it as a DE, which is the position he was drafted to play, I don't see how we are going to have a high success rate moving him to a different position in an entirely new scheme.

Because he would go back to his position as a strongside end, where he was in fact, a good player.

Mecca · 04-17-2009, 05:00 PM

Oh wait this is one of the dumb noobs that got banned isn't it?

Sensible Chiefs fan I think...the guy who gave Donnie Edwards as an example of playing outside in a 3-4. Also the only guy that thinks Tamba Hali can play OLB in a 3-4.

It all makes so much sense now.

04-17-2009, 12:40 PM
chuxtrux Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grbacs basement Casino cash: $10004990	Defensive Line If they do move Hali to OLB in the 3-4, who are they going to have in the trenches. Dorsey isn't really suited to play in the middle in that kind of defense, do they move him outside and put Tyler at NT? And I guess put McBride in the other DE spot? Not that the defensive line can get much worse than last year, but it is still the one spot on the team that I have no idea what they are going to do with.
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shitgoose Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wichita Casino cash: $3792833	Well, Hali had plenty of opportunities to step up last year and be the guy once we traded Allen. He really got it done too. If he can't hack it as a DE, which is the position he was drafted to play, I don't see how we are going to have a high success rate moving him to a different position in an entirely new scheme. __________________
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-762950	It's apparently not just me because in Aaron Maybins scouting report comes this line.. http://www.draftcountdown.com/scouti...ron-Maybin.php "Other Nittany Lion defensive ends like Courtney Brown, Michael Haynes and Tamba Hali have not fared well in the pros"
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04-17-2009, 05:00 PM	#45
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-762950	Oh wait this is one of the dumb noobs that got banned isn't it? Sensible Chiefs fan I think...the guy who gave Donnie Edwards as an example of playing outside in a 3-4. Also the only guy that thinks Tamba Hali can play OLB in a 3-4. It all makes so much sense now.
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