Chiefs @people that think Sanchez would be a better fit - Page 5

jaa1025 · 09-27-2009, 11:31 PM

Are you freaking stupid? Serious question. Sanchez would be 0-3 and probably look worse behind this oline.Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Manning would be 0-3. There is NO time to throw. Every time Cassell dropped back he 3-4 defenders in his face.

When Vermiel was here we had a great oline...one of the best in the league. 2 HoFers helped pave the way for Priest, LJ and company. They gave time to an above average QB (Trent Green) and below average receivers to field the best offense in the league. You all freaking witnessed it...so how did you become so dumb and forget that the Oline makes the offense, just like the Dline (pass rush) makes the defense?

Fix the Oline-Matt has time to actually look further than 3-5 yards down the field. Becomes a star player (Trent was as a average-above average QB) and the RB's rush for 1700+ yards.

Fix the Dline(time and coaching)/OLBs(new players)--Our defense actually looks like Philly's Defense. I'd probably take our dbacks over theres and many other teams starters but they look like crap because NO ONE CAN COVER for 5-8 seconds play after play...not even Deon Sanders in his prime.

So stop with the Sanchez posts. Stop with the Tebow posts (which really makes you look incredibly stupid) and realize that our offense will continue to suck until the Oline is FIXED. It's going to be a VERY long season.

WildTurkey · 09-28-2009, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Even if he's right, do you think the Colts would trade Peyton Manning for Matt Schaub and Mario Williams?

And that's being nice because Jackson will never be Williams and Schaub is probably the best Cassel can end up as.

well we are stuck with both of them so I do hope they reach their max.... but you're right you never ever pass on or trade a franchise QB if you don't have one

tk13 · 09-28-2009, 12:36 AM

Stafford can throw on the run... he played behind a so-so offensive line all of last year. Watch that play today where he gets the PI in the endzone... he was running to his left and flung it about 60 yards like it was nothing. The ball just jumps out of his hand. You just gotta hope being a Lion doesn't ruin him.

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

And again, if Cassel becomes a franchise QB, which I don't see any reason why he couldn't be, than nobody will say shit.

The Giants passed up on Philip Rivers, who ended up a much better QB than Eli. Think they're upset about that decision? You don't have to have the better QB. You just have to have the right QB for your team and I don't see why Cassel couldn't fit into a solid future plan.

All of the QB's from that year are top of the line, Eli is still developing and getting better.

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Stafford can throw on the run... he played behind a so-so offensive line all of last year. Watch that play today where he gets the PI in the endzone... he was running to his left and flung it about 60 yards like it was nothing. The ball just jumps out of his hand. You just gotta hope being a Lion doesn't ruin him.

Stafford has a really strong arm, he just needs refinement with the little things.

WildTurkey · 09-28-2009, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Stafford can throw on the run... he played behind a so-so offensive line all of last year. Watch that play today where he gets the PI in the endzone... he was running to his left and flung it about 60 yards like it was nothing. The ball just jumps out of his hand. You just gotta hope being a Lion doesn't ruin him.

He might be good enough to not be ruined by being in Detroit....

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-28-2009, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey

and we are always looking for the next great underdog story... hell Cassel fits that perfectly... shit Pioli is a genius he knew exactly what the fans wanted

I mean ****; how much more piss and frustration can this franchise heap upon the shoulders of it's fan base?

And though it has no bearing on the subject at hand, I'm still going to say it:

Sanchez looks like SHIT IN A ****ING JETS UNIFORM!!!!

GREEN?! ****ING GREEN?!?!?

God damnit; that kid was born to wear the Red and Gold. And now, I got a skinny, Ryan Leaf look-a-like with a 200 yard crystal meth stare hopping around on his gimpy ****ing leg sportin' my colors.

WildTurkey · 09-28-2009, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

All of the QB's from that year are top of the line, Eli is still developing and getting better.

dude Eli is a gamer.... his drive in the Super Bowl is all you need to see to realize why you need a franchise QB

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 12:40 AM

I know alot of people don't like Eli, he isn't the stats monster that Rivers is or Roethlisberger but dude is clutch, he makes plays.

Those young WR's the Giants have are going to play with him for a long time, I think Eli's perception is only going to increase.

WildTurkey · 09-28-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

I mean ****; how much more piss and frustration can this franchise heap upon the shoulders of it's fan base?

And though it has no bearing on the subject at hand, I'm still going to say it:

Sanchez looks like SHIT IN A ****ING JETS UNIFORM!!!!

GREEN?! ****ING GREEN?!?!?

God damnit; that kid was born to wear the Red and Gold. And now, I got a skinny, Ryan Leaf look-a-like with a 200 yard crystal meth stare hopping around on his gimpy ****ing leg sportin' my colors.

shit I'm still mad about taking DJ over Aaron Rodgers way back when,,,, this passing up on Sanchez is even worse.... both would look great in red

jaa1025 · 09-28-2009, 12:40 AM

If we didn't have Cassell then sure, maybe draft Sanchez. We might not have had a chance though because then NY would have leapfrogged us because StL was trying hard as hell to trade out of 4.

Regardless, I'm not convinced after 3 weeks that Sanchez is better of the two. You can't judge ANY QB with this line because they would all stink.

One argument I'd like to make is that I was REALLY pulling hard for Rex Ryan. I do like Haley, but god I would to have loved to have him on the sideline. He's going to be a very very good HC for the Jets.

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 12:40 AM

Matt Cassel does have a stoned stare now that I think about it.

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025

If we didn't have Cassell then sure, maybe draft Sanchez. We might not have had a chance though because then NY would have leapfrogged us because StL was trying hard as hell to trade out of 4.

Regardless, I'm not convinced after 3 weeks that Sanchez is better of the two. You can't judge ANY QB with this line because they would all stink.

One argument I'd like to make is that I was REALLY pulling hard for Rex Ryan. I do like Haley, but god I would to have loved to have him on the sideline. He's going to be a very very good HC for the Jets.

If we had hired Eric DeCosta we'd probably have Ryan..Sanchez, Bart Scott...

WildTurkey · 09-28-2009, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I know alot of people don't like Eli, he isn't the stats monster that Rivers is or Roethlisberger but dude is clutch, he makes plays.

Those young WR's the Giants have are going to play with him for a long time, I think Eli's perception is only going to increase.

Shit he isn't flashy but he wins and he comes through in tough situations.... look how he totally out classed Romo in Dallas last week

listopencil · 09-28-2009, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

Well considering your coach wanted him more then Cutler and Orton why don't you email him?

Well, considering you base your arguments on the Rumors page of WPI I'd say you don't know what you're talking about. But please do continue rambling on. Meanwhile there is a worthwhile conversation I'll be following here in this very thread.

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey

Shit he isn't flashy but he wins and he comes through in tough situations.... look how he totally out classed Romo in Dallas last week

He's one of the leaders in come from behind wins too...I think you're really seeing where he's at now with how well guys like Manningham look.

Eli is actually underrated.

09-27-2009, 11:31 PM
jaa1025 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10000898	@people that think Sanchez would be a better fit Are you freaking stupid? Serious question. Sanchez would be 0-3 and probably look worse behind this oline.Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Manning would be 0-3. There is NO time to throw. Every time Cassell dropped back he 3-4 defenders in his face. When Vermiel was here we had a great oline...one of the best in the league. 2 HoFers helped pave the way for Priest, LJ and company. They gave time to an above average QB (Trent Green) and below average receivers to field the best offense in the league. You all freaking witnessed it...so how did you become so dumb and forget that the Oline makes the offense, just like the Dline (pass rush) makes the defense? Fix the Oline-Matt has time to actually look further than 3-5 yards down the field. Becomes a star player (Trent was as a average-above average QB) and the RB's rush for 1700+ yards. Fix the Dline(time and coaching)/OLBs(new players)--Our defense actually looks like Philly's Defense. I'd probably take our dbacks over theres and many other teams starters but they look like crap because NO ONE CAN COVER for 5-8 seconds play after play...not even Deon Sanders in his prime. So stop with the Sanchez posts. Stop with the Tebow posts (which really makes you look incredibly stupid) and realize that our offense will continue to suck until the Oline is FIXED. It's going to be a VERY long season.
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09-28-2009, 12:36 AM	#62
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1877500	Stafford can throw on the run... he played behind a so-so offensive line all of last year. Watch that play today where he gets the PI in the endzone... he was running to his left and flung it about 60 yards like it was nothing. The ball just jumps out of his hand. You just gotta hope being a Lion doesn't ruin him.
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09-28-2009, 12:40 AM	#68
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-692950	I know alot of people don't like Eli, he isn't the stats monster that Rivers is or Roethlisberger but dude is clutch, he makes plays. Those young WR's the Giants have are going to play with him for a long time, I think Eli's perception is only going to increase.
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09-28-2009, 12:40 AM	#70
jaa1025 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10000898	If we didn't have Cassell then sure, maybe draft Sanchez. We might not have had a chance though because then NY would have leapfrogged us because StL was trying hard as hell to trade out of 4. Regardless, I'm not convinced after 3 weeks that Sanchez is better of the two. You can't judge ANY QB with this line because they would all stink. One argument I'd like to make is that I was REALLY pulling hard for Rex Ryan. I do like Haley, but god I would to have loved to have him on the sideline. He's going to be a very very good HC for the Jets.
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09-28-2009, 12:40 AM	#71
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-692950	Matt Cassel does have a stoned stare now that I think about it.
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