@people that think Sanchez would be a better fit

[jaa1025]

Are you freaking stupid? Serious question. Sanchez would be 0-3 and probably look worse behind this oline.Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Manning would be 0-3. There is NO time to throw. Every time Cassell dropped back he 3-4 defenders in his face.

When Vermiel was here we had a great oline...one of the best in the league. 2 HoFers helped pave the way for Priest, LJ and company. They gave time to an above average QB (Trent Green) and below average receivers to field the best offense in the league. You all freaking witnessed it...so how did you become so dumb and forget that the Oline makes the offense, just like the Dline (pass rush) makes the defense?

Fix the Oline-Matt has time to actually look further than 3-5 yards down the field. Becomes a star player (Trent was as a average-above average QB) and the RB's rush for 1700+ yards.

Fix the Dline(time and coaching)/OLBs(new players)--Our defense actually looks like Philly's Defense. I'd probably take our dbacks over theres and many other teams starters but they look like crap because NO ONE CAN COVER for 5-8 seconds play after play...not even Deon Sanders in his prime.

So stop with the Sanchez posts. Stop with the Tebow posts (which really makes you look incredibly stupid) and realize that our offense will continue to suck until the Oline is FIXED. It's going to be a VERY long season.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mecca

All of the QB's from that year are top of the line, Eli is still developing and getting better.

Like I said, from a production standpoint, Brees and Rivers clobber Eli.

But for the Giants, they wouldn't want Brees or Rivers. You don't have to be the more productive QB to be "the guy." Cassel shouldn't have to prove he's better or worse than Sanchez. He just has to prove that he's the right guy for Kansas City. And we don't have any evidence that suggests he won't be.

If he ends up like Roethlisberger and throws 15-20 picks per year, but makes plays when he needs to, that's fine with me.

[kcpasco]

Originally Posted by listopencil

Well, considering you base your arguments on the Rumors page of WPI I'd say you don't know what you're talking about. But please do continue rambling on. Meanwhile there is a worthwhile conversation I'll be following here in this very thread.

I think it comes down to that all the things you could be gloating about that the Broncos are better then the Chiefs, the qb position is the one thing you can't.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Mecca

If we had hired Eric DeCosta we'd probably have Ryan..Sanchez, Bart Scott...

Well, I'll see y'all in Hell:

[tonyetony]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Matt Cassel does have a stoned stare now that I think about it.

Between the the bitch downs from Haley and the smack downs from the opposing D-Line who wouldn't have the ten mile stare. If I was him I would be so pissed at the line that the cameras would pan to Haley for more of a soft perspective.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Like I said, from a production standpoint, Brees and Rivers clobber Eli.

But for the Giants, they wouldn't want Brees or Rivers. You don't have to be the more productive QB to be "the guy." Cassel shouldn't have to prove he's better or worse than Sanchez. He just has to prove that he's the right guy for Kansas City. And we don't have any evidence that suggests he won't be.

If he ends up like Roethlisberger and throws 15-20 picks per year, but makes plays when he needs to, that's fine with me.

I don't think Sanchez is ever going to be a stats monster either but the guy is a winner. That was the main reason I liked him he did all the little things right, he has the it factor.

[WildTurkey]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Like I said, from a production standpoint, Brees and Rivers clobber Eli.

But for the Giants, they wouldn't want Brees or Rivers. You don't have to be the more productive QB to be "the guy." Cassel shouldn't have to prove he's better or worse than Sanchez. He just has to prove that he's the right guy for Kansas City. And we don't have any evidence that suggests he won't be.

but only one of those guys has won anything.... and thats the stat I'm concerned about it..... If Cassel wins games for the Chiefs than I won't worry what Sanchez or anyone else is doing

[kcpasco]

The Broncos are 100x times better then KC right now, I'm not afraid to admit that.

But I'd still take a 1 legged Cutler or Cassel over Orton anyday.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by WildTurkey

but only one of those guys has won anything.... and thats the stat I'm concerned about it..... If Cassel wins games for the Chiefs than I won't worry what Sanchez or anyone else is doing

See here was the thing, when comparing them Sanchez is the guy I would call the gamer while Cassel was the stats guy from the NE system with Moss and Welker.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by kcpasco

I think it comes down to that all the things you could be gloating about that the Broncos are better then the Chiefs, the qb position is the one thing you can't.

No, it comes down to the Chiefs had a chance to get a QB that looks like he is going to be a star. Instead they signed Cassell. And that's what this thread is about, which is why I'm discussing it.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by kcpasco

The Broncos are 100x times better then KC right now, I'm not afraid to admit that.

But I'd still take a 1 legged Cutler or Cassel over Orton anyday.

...and that's why you would be a horrible coach.

[WildTurkey]

Originally Posted by Mecca

See here was the thing, when comparing them Sanchez is the guy I would call the gamer while Cassel was the stats guy from the NE system with Moss and Welker.

Valid point.... and if that proves to be right its just the same shit we have been dealing with forever

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by listopencil

No, it comes down to the Chiefs had a chance to get a QB that looks like he is going to be a star. Instead they signed Cassell. And that's what this thread is about, which is why I'm discussing it.

So basically as an outsider you agree with me, so why do a good portion of the people call me a dumbass for my take on this?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't think Sanchez is ever going to be a stats monster either but the guy is a winner. That was the main reason I liked him he did all the little things right, he has the it factor.

I agree with you on that. But again, based on Cassel's experience in New England, why are people so convinced he doesn't have an "it" factor of his own? He's a smart QB, a workout/film room freak, and players seem to really respond well to him. And he did very well in the final, very important stretch in the second half of the season with the Pats.

I really like Sanchez and I think the Chiefs could have gotten a good QB out of him. I always liked his upside better than Cassel. I wouldn't mind having taken Sanchez over Cassel. What I don't understand is when some people make Cassel out to be some loser QB with zero upside and that the franchise made some monumental ****-up for not taking him.

If Cassel ends up being a very good QB, nobody's going to talk about the trade, just as nobody talks about the Giants "****ing up" by taking Eli instead of Ben Roethlisberger.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Mecca

See here was the thing, when comparing them Sanchez is the guy I would call the gamer while Cassel was the stats guy from the NE system with Moss and Welker.

If you take Pioli out of the picture and look at the last two seasons, I feel better as a fan going with the QB who has the ability to fire up everyone around him, even if he is a rook.
At this stage, I take the gamer over "math football".

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by Mecca

So basically as an outsider you agree with me, so why do a good portion of the people call me a dumbass for my take on this?

Same reason the homers on the Mane get all upset with me. Because they are homers.