Kennedy :: History Channel Computer Simulation of Zapruder Film

teedubya · 11-20-2004, 05:22 PM

It is gonna be on from 7-9 [CST] then a show about Joseph Kennedy from 9-11 and from 11-1a they will repeat.

Im sure some of you will dig this. I dont know what it proves...single bullet wise, but It should be entertaining.

tivo it for later.

**Donger** · 11-20-2004, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ali Chi3fs

It is gonna be on from 7-9 [CST] then a show about Joseph Kennedy from 9-11 and from 11-1a they will repeat.

Im sure some of you will dig this. I dont know what it proves...single bullet wise, but It should be entertaining.

tivo it for later.

Thanks for the heads-up (pun intended). Gonna PVR it.

There's no doubt in my mind that the fatal head shot came from the front.

**BigRedChief** · 11-20-2004, 05:52 PM

Saw a special on ABC a couple of years ago. Convinced me of the one gunman theory whereas I was before in the conspiracy theory mindset.

It showed how the single bullet wasn't really magic. The govenor was sitting to the left and lower than the president. Made a straight line right back to the school book depository.

**Donger** · 11-20-2004, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Saw a special on ABC a couple of years ago. Convinced me of the one gunman theory whereas I was before in the conspiracy theory mindset.

It showed how the single bullet wasn't really magic. The govenor was sitting to the left and lower than the president. Made a straight line right back to the school book depository.

No way that cheesed*ck got off, what was it, four aimed shots in seven seconds.

C-Mac · 11-20-2004, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

No way that cheesed*ck got off, what was it, four aimed shots in seven seconds.

I recall on 60 minutes or a show similar to it, they set up a simulated moving model target scenarilal and had a sharp shooter do it in 6-8 seconds and repeated acurately twice in 5 tries. Then when they added in the adrenilin factor, it easily convinced me that one gunman could have pulled it off.

**Donger** · 11-20-2004, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Mac

I recall on 60 minutes or a show similar to it, they set up a simulated moving model target scenarilal and had a sharp shooter do it in 6-8 seconds and repeated acurately twice in 5 tries. Then when they added in the adrenilin factor, it easily convinced me that one gunman could have pulled it off.

What adrenaline factor? They had him shoot at a President of the United States?

C-Mac · 11-20-2004, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

What adrenaline factor? They had him shoot at a President of the United States?

It was refering to the adrenaline factor of Oswald and time, he would have been maxed out.

go bo · 11-20-2004, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

No way that cheesed*ck got off, what was it, four aimed shots in seven seconds.

yeah, i thought i read somewhere that marine and/or fbi sharpshooters tried but couldn't fire that weapon (or one like it) that many times in seven seconds (or whatever it was), let alone aim and hit a moving target while doing it...

**BigRedChief** · 11-20-2004, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

No way that cheesed*ck got off, what was it, four aimed shots in seven seconds.

he was a certified marksman by the marines, Showed his score cards. 50/50 at the distance of the shot.

Brought in a person who had never fired a weapon and they were able to get the shots off in the time allowed after 30 mintues of training.

**Donger** · 11-20-2004, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

he was a certified marksman by the marines, Showed his score cards. 50/50 at the distance of the shot.

Brought in a person who had never fired a weapon and they were able to get the shots off in the time allowed after 30 mintues of training.

Sure. Got them off. How many hits on a moving target?

Chris Meck · 11-20-2004, 06:13 PM

Nope, no way he got off four shots. Oswald's marine marksmanship scores would show him to be a barely acceptable shot. Taking essentially the same tests with a far superior weapon (M-16), I scored like 8 points higher. I've seen that window, and seen the mock-up, and I doubt I could've hit it even WITHOUT having a bolt-action single shot rifle.

Chris

C-Mac · 11-20-2004, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Nope, no way he got off four shots. Oswald's marine marksmanship scores would show him to be a barely acceptable shot. Taking essentially the same tests with a far superior weapon (M-16), I scored like 8 points higher. I've seen that window, and seen the mock-up, and I doubt I could've hit it even WITHOUT having a bolt-action single shot rifle.

Chris

If an automatic rifle would have been used, there wouldn't have been any question. Oswald was part of a political conspiracy and whoever they were would not have used him if he couldnt prove that he could pull it off.

DJay23 · 11-20-2004, 09:17 PM

I had always been taught that Kennedy's assassination was a conspiracy. Having watched the program this evening, I have to say, I'm not as convinced anymore.

**Donger** · 11-20-2004, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJay23

I had always been taught that Kennedy's assassination was a conspiracy. Having watched the program this evening, I have to say, I'm not as convinced anymore.

Looking foward to viewing it.

**Donger** · 11-20-2004, 06:17 PM

And, anyone that looks at the fatal headshot (where his head moves back and left) and concludes that that shot came from the front needs a chat with Newton.

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Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $-1455090	Nope, no way he got off four shots. Oswald's marine marksmanship scores would show him to be a barely acceptable shot. Taking essentially the same tests with a far superior weapon (M-16), I scored like 8 points higher. I've seen that window, and seen the mock-up, and I doubt I could've hit it even WITHOUT having a bolt-action single shot rifle. Chris
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