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Old 12-10-2007, 09:34 AM   Topic Starter
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Playing Shack Harris (Jaguars GM) for awhile. Here's a trade offer to the Chiefs. Jaguars starting tackle Khalif Barnes (2005 second rounder from Oregon) for the Chiefs 2nd round pick. Barnes is a quality tackle but has had some off the field issues and appears to be tired of Jax and Jax tired of him. He would help start the rebuilding effort for the Chiefs and start from day one in Kansas City. If I were the Chiefs I would still draft a offensive lineman in the first round to go with Barnes and that would give them a great start at rebuilding their offensive line (I am one that believes that NFL games are won and lost up front). For the Jaguars with their first rounder I would draft a Defensive End and with either of their second rounders I would pick up a tackle and with the other I would go with a strong safety.
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:35 AM   #2
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A better Oline prospect can be drafted by us than us trading for Barnes
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:42 AM   #3
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Is prospect. Do you go with a know quality in Barnes or do you take a risk with prospect (Carl taint exactly been hitting home runs in the draft lately).

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Old 12-10-2007, 09:42 AM   #4
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If it was a 4th rounder, I might see why KC would do the deal.
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:46 AM   #5
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If it was a 4th rounder, I might see why KC would do the deal.
Especially with the dreaded "off the field trouble" label.
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:46 AM   #6
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If it was a 4th rounder, I might see why KC would do the deal.


Yup, with the high pick we'll get this year (hopefully) our 2nd will be an extention of the 1st rnd.
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:44 AM   #7
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Fourth rounder.........you been smoking with Ricky and Travis? A quality NFL tackle for a second rounder doesn't come around much.
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Fourth rounder.........you been smoking with Ricky and Travis? A quality NFL tackle for a second rounder doesn't come around much.
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Fourth rounder.........you been smoking with Ricky and Travis? A quality NFL tackle for a second rounder doesn't come around much.
This team has enough nutjobs on it, thanks.
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Old 12-10-2007, 11:31 AM   #10
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Fourth rounder.........you been smoking with Ricky and Travis? A quality NFL tackle for a second rounder doesn't come around much.

But they do if you want to get rid of him.. It is a buyers market with the way the league is structured now with trades.. Look at randy and some of the other deals.. first day picks are worth a ton, if we couldn't get a 1st for LJ last year what makes you think you can get a 2nd..


Unless you find a really stupid team like the niners..
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If Willie Roaf was a 3rd...
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:45 AM   #12
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:52 AM   #14
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Chances are we're going to end up with a top 5 choice, and that means all our rounds choices will be bumped up that high. Giving up a 2nd rounder for him won't happen. No reason to give up a high choice with the prospect of getting a younger, possibly more talented, and cap-friendlier prospect.

This team isn't a few pieces away, so stick with drafting BPA through the draft, and pick up need players thru FA- even if you have to pay a bit more on the open market. For example, a guy like Lilja, KC native, is a 4 year vet and only 26. It's fairly safe to assume that he's got a min. of 8 solid years in him, but still enough that would make any contract he signs be worth it and just as he's entering his "prime" years.

I'd be more than willing to pay up for him b/c you know you've got a quality addition. With the roster turnover that should happen, paying a little more for sure bet FA's is worth it b/c the number of younger guys coming in will free up some cap space.
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Chances are we're going to end up with a top 5 choice, and that means all our rounds choices will be bumped up that high. Giving up a 2nd rounder for him won't happen. No reason to give up a high choice with the prospect of getting a younger, possibly more talented, and cap-friendlier prospect.

This team isn't a few pieces away, so stick with drafting BPA through the draft, and pick up need players thru FA- even if you have to pay a bit more on the open market. For example, a guy like Lilja, KC native, is a 4 year vet and only 26. It's fairly safe to assume that he's got a min. of 8 solid years in him, but still enough that would make any contract he signs be worth it and just as he's entering his "prime" years.

I'd be more than willing to pay up for him b/c you know you've got a quality addition. With the roster turnover that should happen, paying a little more for sure bet FA's is worth it b/c the number of younger guys coming in will free up some cap space.
Good stuff. Agreed.
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