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Old 05-16-2008, 02:29 PM   Topic Starter
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Why isn't off-the-ball hack-a-Shaq totally illegal?
I was watching the Spurs play the Suns last month, and late in the game they just sent guys at O'Neal to foul him, even if he wasn't even on the offensive half of the court yet. Shaq would juke and boogy, trying to get away from them. It was every bit as ridiculous as it sounds.

I thought there was some sort of rule there, and today I run across this on Wikipedia, talking about Wilt Chamberlain:

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This led to the spectacle of virtually an entire other contest being held away from the ball and almost completely outside of the basketball game being played, as Chamberlain essentially played a de facto game of tag with defenders, attempting to run from and dodge them as they chased him trying to foul him.

The NBA decided to address this undesirable situation by instituting a new rule regarding off-the-ball fouls — that is, committing a personal foul against an offensive player who neither has the ball nor is making an effort to obtain it. The new rule stated that if the defensive team commits an off-the-ball foul within the last two minutes of the game, the offensive team would be allowed to keep possession of the ball after the awarding of either one or two free throws.
Why only the last two minutes? Isn't this tactic ridiculous at any time?
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:31 PM   #2
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Just to be specific it is illegal but you want a Int foul on top of it?
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Old 05-16-2008, 04:21 PM   #3
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Just to be specific it is illegal but you want a Int foul on top of it?
Its pretty obvious its intentional. Call it what it is.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:32 PM   #4
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Here's a better idea how about someone hit their "FREE" throws
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:33 PM   #5
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Here's a better idea how about someone hit their "FREE" throws

And yet, the entire game of b-ball shouldn't be perverted because someone is a lousy free throw shooter. If he has the ball, fine.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:37 PM   #6
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:38 PM   #7
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Here's a better idea how about someone hit their "FREE" throws
You have a valid point, but hack-a-shaq ruins a basketball game. Who wants to see someone brick freethrows until they have to leave the game?
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:41 PM   #8
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You have a valid point, but hack-a-shaq ruins a basketball game. Who wants to see someone brick freethrows until they have to leave the game?
The team playing him??

IT is all about winning.. Hell people want to give the Pats a free break on cheating.. But they do what ever they can to win..
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The team playing him??

IT is all about winning.. Hell people want to give the Pats a free break on cheating.. But they do what ever they can to win..
I'm not saying it isn't a legit strategy, but thats why I would support a rule change. I don't want to reward poor FT shooters either, but I'd rather not watch hack-a-shaq.
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The team playing him??

IT is all about winning.. Hell people want to give the Pats a free break on cheating.. But they do what ever they can to win..

These two concepts are related....NOT.
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The hack-a-shaq is going to be ridiculously widespread next year, and I expect they'll need to move off the "final 2 minutes" approach the rule now has.
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Unfortunately hack-a-Shaq is a legit strategy that works, but it makes for absolutely awful basketball. A rule change is needed. Oh and make egregious flopping a technical foul as well, especially dead-ball flopping. I wouldn't mind if they gave away Ts for too much complaining to the refs either.

All of this shit takes away from the game. Because of the way games are officiated, half the league flops and then bitches to the refs after every play.
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Unfortunately hack-a-Shaq is a legit strategy that works, but it makes for absolutely awful basketball. A rule change is needed. Oh and make egregious flopping a technical foul as well, especially dead-ball flopping. I wouldn't mind if they gave away Ts for too much complaining to the refs either.

All of this shit takes away from the game. Because of the way games are officiated, half the league flops and then bitches to the refs after every play.

Yep. It's turning into soccer with all the flops and bitching. Not having watched a lick of b-ball in 15+ years, I definitely noticed that was a new (and unwelcome) addition. The bitching is as old as time, but the flopping all over the place is much worse than it used to be.
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Unfortunately hack-a-Shaq is a legit strategy that works, but it makes for absolutely awful basketball. A rule change is needed. Oh and make egregious flopping a technical foul as well, especially dead-ball flopping. I wouldn't mind if they gave away Ts for too much complaining to the refs either.

All of this shit takes away from the game. Because of the way games are officiated, half the league flops and then bitches to the refs after every play.
Yeah, same with kicking the ball (after a score) and making it look like an accident, just to slow down a `fast-break team.` Sound familiar KU? Sorry had to ... That has been bothering for a while now.
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Yeah, same with kicking the ball (after a score) and making it look like an accident, just to slow down a `fast-break team.` Sound familiar KU? Sorry had to ... That has been bothering for a while now.
Yeah, it's almost as bad as that phony ass flop.
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