MU diplomas vs KU diplomas

[luv]

Just curious. How many MU fans actually received diplomas from MU? Likewise, how many KU fans received diplomas from KU? If you're a fan of either of these teams, but did not graduate from either one, then where did you graduate from?

[kstater]

I have a diploma from KSU. I'm fairly confident I'm not a fan of either of the teams you listed.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by kstater

I have a diploma from KSU. I'm fairly confident I'm not a fan of either of the teams you listed.

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[healthpellets]

Mizzou fan. Mizzou undergrad. Marquette for the JD. I'll always have a soft spot for Marquette basketball.

[luv]

Eh. Probably not worth the bump, but I'm still curious to see.

[bowener]

Originally Posted by healthpellets

Mizzou fan. Mizzou undergrad. Marquette for the JD. I'll always have a soft spot for Marquette basketball.

Do you recommend getting your JD? I am having a hard time deciding if I want to go into a PhD program to be a professor, or mastering in a field I did not get my undergrad in, or going to Law School.

My understand is that the first year of Law school is comparable to the first year of med school in its difficulty and time devotion.

Just need some information on how you feel it has served you. Also, what was your major? Pre-law, polisci?

[healthpellets]

Originally Posted by bowener

Do you recommend getting your JD? I am having a hard time deciding if I want to go into a PhD program to be a professor, or mastering in a field I did not get my undergrad in, or going to Law School.

My understand is that the first year of Law school is comparable to the first year of med school in its difficulty and time devotion.

Just need some information on how you feel it has served you. Also, what was your major? Pre-law, polisci?

comes down to what you want to do. if you really want to teach, and love research, go with the MA/MS or the PhD. if you want to practice law, go get your law degree. but before you do that, know that practicing law is what you want to do. and know two other things: 1) do you want to make money or practice law; 2) where do you want to practice?

if you want to make money, lots of money, move to the east or west coast, go to a top 15 school, graduate in the top 15% of your class and you're set. really, you are. if you pursue that route, and after your first semester you finish out of the top 25%, quit. go get your Ph.D. whatever grades you get your first semester will resemble your grades for the next 2.5 years.

if you think the law would be a nice profession, and you want to make a comfortable salary, find a school in the state you want to practice, get as much of a full ride as possible, and take out as few loans as possible. that way you aren't tied to practicing just to pay your loans. because they are substantial, very substantial, payments. and you don't want to be saddled with those payments if you're not practicing. it's just not worth it.

the most important advice i can offer is simply go to school in the state, preferably the city, in which you want to practice. forget school rankings. UMKC is a crappy school if you look at rankings. MU and KU are top 50 (or they were), but if you graduate out of the top 1/3, it doesn't much matter where you went unless your diploma says Harvard, Stanford, Yale, etc. It's all about networking. If your choice is a full ride at UMKC or a partial scholarship at Washington University, go to UMKC. if you decide you don't want to practice, no big deal. no $1,000 a month loan payments.

you get jobs by knowing people. and you can't meet people if you aren't in the city. you can't join the local bar association and get to know potential employers. you can't meet the people you need to meet to get a job. of course, this means nothing if you are in the top 10%. you'll get a job wherever you want. but there's a better chance you won't be in the top 10% than you will be. so take that for what it's worth.

whatever path you choose will be a lot of work. just know that going in. i haven't been to med school, but i can't imagine that law school even comes close to the academic rigors that students face in med school. the first year of law school is simply an adjustment in learning style. the faster you adapt, the more quickly you will succeed.

but good luck to you whatever you choose to do.

i doubled in political science and philosophy in undergrad.

[Bearcat]

No offense, luv, because this topic gets brought up all the time... it just gives me another opportunity to say this topic is absolutely pointless.

A couple of reasons... first, winning programs are going to attract fair weather fans, so even if this forum is indicative of one or both fan bases, wondering why Kansas has more fans that didn't go there is like wondering why you see Yankees hats everywhere or why everyone was a Bulls fan in the 90s. Along with success, you aren't going to start rooting for a team you can't ever watch, and Kansas gets a lot more national spots than Mizzou.

Also, I fell in love with Roy Williams' style long before I went to college, and I wasn't going to pick a college based on that (and I wasn't going to pay the out of state tuition, either (I think it was just a year before KU started including KCMO counties as in-state )). One has nothing to do with the other.

So.. I'm a Kansas fan, went to NWMSU for my undergrad degree (when I started at NW, there was a rumor that Missouri wanted it to be a part of the MU family).

[luv]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

No offense, luv, because this topic gets brought up all the time... it just gives me another opportunity to say this topic is absolutely pointless.

A couple of reasons... first, winning programs are going to attract fair weather fans, so even if this forum is indicative of one or both fan bases, wondering why Kansas has more fans that didn't go there is like wondering why you see Yankees hats everywhere or why everyone was a Bulls fan in the 90s. Along with success, you aren't going to start rooting for a team you can't ever watch, and Kansas gets a lot more national spots than Mizzou.

Also, I fell in love with Roy Williams' style long before I went to college, and I wasn't going to pick a college based on that (and I wasn't going to pay the out of state tuition, either (I think it was just a year before KU started including KCMO counties as in-state )). One has nothing to do with the other.

So.. I'm a Kansas fan, went to NWMSU for my undergrad degree (when I started at NW, there was a rumor that Missouri wanted it to be a part of the MU family).

Sedated stated that I was a fraud, and that I was acting like I had an MU dilpoma hanging on my wall. It just made me wonder how many fans of either school actually went to that school.

[KcMizzou]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

No offense, luv, because this topic gets brought up all the time... it just gives me another opportunity to say this topic is absolutely pointless.

A couple of reasons... first, winning programs are going to attract fair weather fans, so even if this forum is indicative of one or both fan bases, wondering why Kansas has more fans that didn't go there is like wondering why you see Yankees hats everywhere or why everyone was a Bulls fan in the 90s. Along with success, you aren't going to start rooting for a team you can't ever watch, and Kansas gets a lot more national spots than Mizzou.

Also, I fell in love with Roy Williams' style long before I went to college, and I wasn't going to pick a college based on that (and I wasn't going to pay the out of state tuition, either (I think it was just a year before KU started including KCMO counties as in-state )). One has nothing to do with the other.

So.. I'm a Kansas fan, went to NWMSU for my undergrad degree (when I started at NW, there was a rumor that Missouri wanted it to be a part of the MU family).

I became a Mizzou fan for three reasons...

#1, I was born and raised here... in Missouri, and I'm not a front running douchebag.

#2, My HS Girlfriend was a year older than me... she went to Mizzou, I went to CMSU. I spent a lot of time on campus at Mizzou, and met a a couple players at sorority parties who were cool as hell.

#3, The Triple OT game vs. Illinios.

Then Melvin Booker, Jevon Crudup and the rest went undefeated in the Big 8, and the deal was sealed.

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

No offense, luv, because this topic gets brought up all the time... it just gives me another opportunity to say this topic is absolutely pointless.

A couple of reasons... first, winning programs are going to attract fair weather fans, so even if this forum is indicative of one or both fan bases, wondering why Kansas has more fans that didn't go there is like wondering why you see Yankees hats everywhere or why everyone was a Bulls fan in the 90s. Along with success, you aren't going to start rooting for a team you can't ever watch, and Kansas gets a lot more national spots than Mizzou.

Also, I fell in love with Roy Williams' style long before I went to college, and I wasn't going to pick a college based on that (and I wasn't going to pay the out of state tuition, either (I think it was just a year before KU started including KCMO counties as in-state )). One has nothing to do with the other.

So.. I'm a Kansas fan, went to NWMSU for my undergrad degree (when I started at NW, there was a rumor that Missouri wanted it to be a part of the MU family).

The only anomaly is the Cubs.

[Silock]

I am a KU fan, but I'm still a student there. I voted with the graduated option, though, because I will.

[DJ's left nut]

I counted my JD. Undergrad was Truman State.

[HolyHandgernade]

I attended KU for three years and then ran out of money. Stumbled into a job that became a great career, funny how things work out!

-HH

[Braincase]

I graduated from Wichita State University. Would've gone to KU if it hadn't been for a WSU scholarship.