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Old 04-08-2010, 11:55 AM   Topic Starter
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Spinoff Thread: J. Charles trade value
In the Lounge there is a discussion about a hypothetical situation where we trade Charles for draft picks; and then draft Spiller with the 5th overall.

Keep in mind about Charles:
- He is very cheap for this year.
- He had a shoulder injury last year. (most likely healed).
- He had a ridiculous break out season.
- RB's are a dime a dozen, but a playmaker like him is hard to come by.

Keep in mind about Spiller:
- He projects to be incredible
- He projects to be a game changer at multiple positions (RB, WR, KR, PR)
- RB's are a dime a dozen, but a projected playmaker like him is hard to come by.

Keep in mind about the Chiefs:
- Pioli doesn't like sexy picks
- Pioli is not afraid to trade around on draft day
- Thomas Jones is a starting caliber RB, even if he's not a top 10 -15 RB


Question A: What is Charles worth? (top 10 draft pick? mid-late 1st? 2nd?)
Question B: What teams would realistically trade for him?
Question C: What would you do with this hypothetical earned pick?
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:56 AM   #2
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:57 AM   #3
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You almost definitely wouldn't get your worth for him. You rarely do for running backs.

And you don't want to do it anyway because we're not going for Spiller (which is a shame), and Jones only has a couple years on the vine left anyway.
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Old 04-08-2010, 11:59 AM   #4
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**** For the record, I am not advocating this happens, just thought it would make for a lively discussion ****
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:16 PM   #5
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:20 PM   #6
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Holy ****.

Will shit EVER end?

First, it was trade Priest, then trade Larry, now trade Charles?

Let me ask you dumbshits who propose this bullshit: When has a trade EVER worked out well for the Chiefs?

Jared Allen? Tony Gonzalez?

JFC.
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:21 PM   #7
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Holy ****.

Will shit EVER end?

First, it was trade Priest, then trade Larry, now trade Charles?

Let me ask you dumbshits who propose this bullshit: When has a trade EVER worked out well for the Chiefs?

Jared Allen? Tony Gonzalez?

JFC.
We're about to find out if the Tony trade is going to work out for us.

And if Morgan actually amounted to anything....the Allen trade wouldn't be that bad.
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:40 PM   #8
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In answer to the OP: wherever spiller would go is likely where I would put charles' value.

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Holy ****.

Will shit EVER end?

First, it was trade Priest, then trade Larry, now trade Charles?

Let me ask you dumbshits who propose this bullshit: When has a trade EVER worked out well for the Chiefs?

Jared Allen? Tony Gonzalez?

JFC.
Trading gonzalez was the best move of last offseason. 2-3 years of tony in which we aren't in contention, or potentially years of a first round talent?

Further, running backs, trade em while the gettin is good. They have such short careers and are more prone to injury than other positions. I would trade charles for a mid-first in a heartbeat. Because chances are he'll be washed up in 4-5 years, while a player like Graham could be effective for a decade.
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:21 PM   #9
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You wouldn't get shit for him. Hell, what do you think one would get for Chris Johnson? A 2nd rnder at the most?
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It's speculation on the Gonzalez trade, as Pioli hasn't selected yet.

As for the Allen trade, I'd rather have him than Albert and Charles.
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so basically C.J. Spiller's ceiling is to be the next Jamaal Charles?

I think people forget how good Charles is catching the ball and running routes...

Which is why I could see him working the slot here and there when Thomas Jones is in the game.
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I wouldn't trade Charles for 2 1st round picks. Right now, he's the franchise.
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Old 04-09-2010, 09:39 AM   #13
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I wouldn't trade Charles for 2 1st round picks. Right now, he's the franchise.
I'd drive Jamaal to wherever he needed to go for 2 #1's.
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I'd drive Jamaal to wherever he needed to go for 2 #1's.
That would actually make the JA trade, look much better at this point.
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I'd drive Jamaal to wherever he needed to go for 2 #1's.
Yeah!

Then we could replace him with Robert Ayers and Knowshon Moreno!
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