Chiefs Peter King: John Dorsey, a rookie who doesnt have time to be a rookie

Deberg_1990 · 03-19-2013, 02:50 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...1_a6&eref=sihp

John Dorsey: A rookie who doesn't have time to be a rookie.

"You see the bottom drop out of the market, and you react."

It wasn't the trade for Alex Smith, which seemed easy even though the pricetag (a second-round pick this year, and another high pick next year) was high, or the signing of backup quarterback Chase Daniel to give the Chiefs good quarterbacks at first- and second-string. Nor was it the decision to sign Dwayne Bowe to franchise receiver money, or to franchise left tackle Branden Albert. It was stretching to get 6-foot-3 cornerback Sean Smith from Miami, when the cornerback market was crashing and Dorsey didn't have much time to decide what was right or wrong.

"We had decided we were going to address free agency, but in a frugal way, after we signed our own guys,'' Dorsey said. "One of the things I've learned is it's not smart to go what I call the JUCO route, taking players who might be only short-term fits. We want to take guys at reasonable prices who can be core players. When the corner market changed, we really had to go after Sean.''

To clinch the deal, Dorsey paid $7.5 million in year one, which means Smith won't be a one-year fix; he'll be a relative bargain at $3.5 million in year two.

I like the fact that both Reid and Dorsey think Alex Smith throws the ball well enough downfield to commit to him. He doesn't have a top-10 arm in the league, nor a top-15. But he's certainly good enough. "We looked at every plus-10 throw he made in the last two years with the Niners,'' said Dorsey, meaning every thrown that traveled more than 10 yards past the line of scrimmage. "And we liked what we saw. He's got enough arm to win in this league; there's no doubt in my mind. He can throw the 20-yard comeback from the opposite hashmark and hit his target. And he knows when to take a shot and when not to.''

That's a shot Dorsey and Reid have taken, and I think they'll be rewarded for it.

Hammock Parties · 03-19-2013, 02:50 PM

We're paying this dude $7.5 million to get roasted this year.

Can't wait.

Deberg_1990 · 03-19-2013, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

We're paying this dude $7.5 million to get roasted this year.

Can't wait.

Perhaps you would like to have Piioli back?

saphojunkie · 03-19-2013, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

We're paying this dude $7.5 million to get roasted this year.

Can't wait.

Your anti-Sean Smith soapbox is just silly.

Hammock Parties · 03-19-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Your anti-Sean Smith soapbox is just silly.

It's silly to think a guy who has never come close to being a good CB is being paid like an elite one this year.

Nightfyre · 03-19-2013, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

It's silly to think a guy who has never come close to being a good CB is being paid like an elite one this year.

His salary this year is a matter of structuring the deal.

CaliforniaChief · 03-19-2013, 02:59 PM

Well if we could have Brandon Carr back, I'd gladly give the compensatory pick back.

But with the additions of Smith and Robinson, he acknowledges the needs in the secondary. More depth. I like it.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-19-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

It's silly to think a guy who has never come close to being a good CB is being paid like an elite one this year.

Elite corners make 7.5m ? You might wanna go check something other then PFF. Year 2 he makes 3.5m

Hammock Parties · 03-19-2013, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Elite corners make 7.5m ? You might wanna go check something other then PFF. Year 2 he makes 3.5m

Elite corners definitely making something in the $7.5 million range per year.

He's being paid like he's a top corner this year. That's funny!

**The Bad Guy** · 03-19-2013, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

It's silly to think a guy who has never come close to being a good CB is being paid like an elite one this year.

He's getting paid like an average one for the length of the contract. Keep with your semantics.

You've beaten this drum to death. You know nothing about the player but what you read on Dolphin message boards and PFF.

It's pathetic really.

**LoneWolf** · 03-19-2013, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Your anti-Sean Smith soapbox is just silly.

But, but, PFF says he sucks so it has to be true.

By the way, PFF also says Alex Smith is better than Joe Flacco so it's obvious they are infallable.

58-4ever · 03-19-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

But, but, PFF says he sucks so it has to be true.

By the way, PFF also says Alex Smith is better than Joe Flacco so it's obvious they are infallable.

Keep ****ing doubting Alex Smith!!

Johnny Vegas · 03-19-2013, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

We're paying this dude $7.5 million to get roasted this year.

Can't wait.

or we could've kept Pioli and acquired Kirk Ferentz to save that $7.5M and spend it on the OL along with letting Bowe go and losing Albert. To me that $7.5M is sofa change for a starting CB and its even less significant because we got a regime that players want to come and play for.

Raiderhater58 · 03-20-2013, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

We're paying this dude $7.5 million to get roasted this year.

Can't wait.

You may be THE most negative person that I have ever come across in my 44 years on this planet (earth, not Chiefs). You don't seem to like anything this team does.

Hammock Parties · 03-20-2013, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhater58

You may be THE most negative person that I have ever come across in my 44 years on this planet (earth, not Chiefs). You don't seem to like anything this team does.

No, I just don't like Alex Smith or Sean Smith.

It's being blown out of proportion by people who insist on defending EVERY MOVE Dorsey and Reid make this offseason as SOLID GOLD.

They have made at least one mistake and my gut tells me it's one of these guys.

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Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $144454	Peter King: John Dorsey, a rookie who doesnt have time to be a rookie http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...1_a6&eref=sihp John Dorsey: A rookie who doesn't have time to be a rookie. "You see the bottom drop out of the market, and you react." It wasn't the trade for Alex Smith, which seemed easy even though the pricetag (a second-round pick this year, and another high pick next year) was high, or the signing of backup quarterback Chase Daniel to give the Chiefs good quarterbacks at first- and second-string. Nor was it the decision to sign Dwayne Bowe to franchise receiver money, or to franchise left tackle Branden Albert. It was stretching to get 6-foot-3 cornerback Sean Smith from Miami, when the cornerback market was crashing and Dorsey didn't have much time to decide what was right or wrong. "We had decided we were going to address free agency, but in a frugal way, after we signed our own guys,'' Dorsey said. "One of the things I've learned is it's not smart to go what I call the JUCO route, taking players who might be only short-term fits. We want to take guys at reasonable prices who can be core players. When the corner market changed, we really had to go after Sean.'' To clinch the deal, Dorsey paid $7.5 million in year one, which means Smith won't be a one-year fix; he'll be a relative bargain at $3.5 million in year two. I like the fact that both Reid and Dorsey think Alex Smith throws the ball well enough downfield to commit to him. He doesn't have a top-10 arm in the league, nor a top-15. But he's certainly good enough. "We looked at every plus-10 throw he made in the last two years with the Niners,'' said Dorsey, meaning every thrown that traveled more than 10 yards past the line of scrimmage. "And we liked what we saw. He's got enough arm to win in this league; there's no doubt in my mind. He can throw the 20-yard comeback from the opposite hashmark and hit his target. And he knows when to take a shot and when not to.'' That's a shot Dorsey and Reid have taken, and I think they'll be rewarded for it.
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