NFL Draft Buyer Beware ... Cornerbacks

Mr. Laz · 04-27-2015, 07:29 PM

CFF Overview: CB – Buyer Beware
Gordon McGuinness | April 17, 2015
CFF-overview-CB-beware

As we continue to look through the mass of CFF data we have collected, we’re turning our attention to cornerbacks. After bringing you the top of the crop and sleepers earlier in the week we now turn our attention to the Buyer Beware section.

The top of this cornerback class is filled with question marks and you can still find players 10-15 spots deep that aren’t too far away from the guys at the top. That means the guys at the top come with the added question mark of how much of a gamble you are taking by spending a high draft pick on them. So here are five players who we think teams should be wary of in the NFL draft.

Trae Waynes, Michigan St.

Waynes is regarded by many as the top cornerback in this class and at times it’s easy to see why. He has speed to burn and shows confidence, never looking worried about being beaten deep. He also holds the point well against a block and performs well against the run. Despite all that, though, there are some question marks that make him a risk to be selected as high as many are predicting.

His awareness at times is questionable, and there are times when he lost the ball in the air by focusing too much on the wide receiver in front of him. Those lapses leave him flapping after noticing the ball in the air, leading to contact which could lead to more flags in the NFL. His tackling can also be a bit suspect as he has a tendency to throw himself at tackles in space, a little bit like Asante Samuel, rather than wrapping up. That’s something that will cost him a few big plays when he misses, and something he must clean up in the NFL.

Signature stat: Missed a tackle once every 8.3 attempts.

Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest

CFF-inset-kevin-johnsonJohnson is also regarded as a first-round draft pick by many, but in a similar way to Justin Hardy at wide receiver he’s someone that neither myself nor Sam see the hype with. He does have great balance which stops him from being beaten immediately off the line where so much damage can be done, but there are too many question marks in the rest of his game.

He doesn’t possess great top-level speed on the field. This will lead to him losing plenty of one-on-one battles with NFL receivers and at times it looked like he was deliberately playing off to protect his speed. The need to jump up from there and attack under routes led to him being beaten on double moves on more than one occasion. Like Waynes, he too can be a bit of a sloppy tackler at times, tilting his head down and trying to tackle blind far too often which led to 10 misses last season.

Signature Stat: Missed a tackle once every 5.1 attempted, tied for the ninth-worst of all draft-eligible cornerbacks in this class.

P.J. Williams, Florida St.

CFF-inset-pj-williamsWilliams is arguably the most frustrating cornerback in this draft class and is the perfect example of how subset scouting can lead to a guy being overhyped. In his best games, he looked very good when getting his hands on a wide receiver early and attacked the run and screen passes aggressively, launching himself through blockers.

The problem with Williams is inconsistency. As good as he looked against Louisville and DeVante Parker, he played very poorly against Syracuse, North Carolina State, and Georgia Tech. Very good when he gets his hands on a receiver, but as soon as he loses direct contact he struggles, something that will be a big issue in the NFL. Like the previous two we mentioned, he missed too many tackles in 2014. It’s not something he doesn’t look capable of, but poor technique such as arm tackles and trying to swat at the ball when he’s in a bad position give him big problems.

Signature Stat: Williams allowed a quarterback rating of 100.0 on all passes thrown into his coverage.

Eric Rowe, Utah

CFF-inset-roweRowe is a cornerback who divides opinion, with some seeing him as a better prospect at safety than cornerback, while others think he’s a better fit at the position he played during his final season in college. One thing you can say for Rowe is he’s very strong. In the Washington State game he was too physical for the receivers he went up against and made life miserable for them. He’s physical enough that he makes contested catches tough on wide receivers, and works best in press-man when he’s able to get his hands on the wide receiver.

The problem with Rowe is he looks very uncomfortable in off-coverage at times, looking lost and struggling to get a feel for everything around him. He also struggles with recovery speed so when he loses at the line of scrimmage he’s in trouble. Any success he has in the NFL will come from being able to get a good jam on wide receivers at the line of scrimmage unless he can improve his work in off-coverage.

Signature Stat: Was targeted once every 6.6 snaps in coverage.

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**cdcox** · 04-27-2015, 07:31 PM

These are all huge warning signs.

thabear04 · 04-27-2015, 07:34 PM

Already posted. http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=291950

Mr. Laz · 04-27-2015, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04

Already posted. http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=291950

many people don't hang out in the draft section

a lot of the people in the draft section don't want more people in there

no Q's for the ****ing draft section

**Meatloaf** · 04-27-2015, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

many people don't hang out in the draft section

a lot of the people in the draft section don't want more people in there

no Q's for the ****ing draft section

Laz, I too have the impression that some folks in the draft section don't really want more people in there. BUT, I go there anyway! Unless I'm mistaken, we can all play in all of the CP sandboxes, so please don't let a few bullies sway where you/we go play.

Anyway, thanks for the posting as it supports my position on this year's CBs....and of course, I endorse anything that supports my position.

See you in the Draft Section!

Mr. Laz · 04-27-2015, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meatloaf

Laz, I too have the impression that some folks in the draft section don't really want more people in there. BUT, I go there anyway! Unless I'm mistaken, we can all play in all of the CP sandboxes, so please don't let a few bullies sway where you/we go play.

Anyway, thanks for the posting as it supports my position on this year's CBs....and of course, I endorse anything that supports my position.

See you in the Draft Section!

not an impression at all

They have come out and said they only want certain people in their draft threads. Also why they don't want the draft in the main lounge during draft time either.

draft snobs only want to talk to other draft snobs

i don't care, ****'em

just don't be let me hear in Q bullshit about the ****ing draft forum.

TambaBerry · 04-27-2015, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

not an impression at all

They have come out and said they only want certain people in their draft threads. Also why they don't want the draft in the main lounge during draft time either.

draft snobs only want to talk to other draft snobs

i don't care, ****'em

just don't be let me hear in Q bullshit about the ****ing draft forum.

Is this true? I've been posting in the draft section since I was new and never had a problem

Chiefnj2 · 04-28-2015, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

not an impression at all

They have come out and said they only want certain people in their draft threads. Also why they don't want the draft in the main lounge during draft time either.

draft snobs only want to talk to other draft snobs

i don't care, ****'em

just don't be let me hear in Q bullshit about the ****ing draft forum.

Yearning for the return of the drafturbators?

**the Talking Can** · 04-28-2015, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

not an impression at all

They have come out and said they only want certain people in their draft threads. Also why they don't want the draft in the main lounge during draft time either.

draft snobs only want to talk to other draft snobs

i don't care, ****'em

just don't be let me hear in Q bullshit about the ****ing draft forum.

i always thought you were posting from a middle school cafeteria...

Urc Burry · 04-27-2015, 07:35 PM

Marcus Peters is going to be lockdown and is who I want

thabear04 · 04-27-2015, 07:58 PM

Not trying to give you a hard time Laz I respect a lot of you guys in here.

**Saulbadguy** · 04-27-2015, 07:58 PM

READER BEWARE

LAZ POST

**TribalElder** · 04-27-2015, 08:42 PM

There's a draft section?

j/k

**RealSNR** · 04-27-2015, 08:45 PM

Didn't see Marcus Peters on the list.

That's because I love him more than any player since Geno Smith.

I want him inside me

...team's locker room. Which is what I would say if I were an Irishman.

**the Talking Can** · 04-28-2015, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR

Didn't see Marcus Peters on the list.

That's because I love him more than any player since Geno Smith.

I want him inside me

...team's locker room. Which is what I would say if I were an Irishman.

i'd like to make that a threesome...

04-27-2015, 07:29 PM	Topic Starter
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Buyer Beware ... Cornerbacks CFF Overview: CB – Buyer Beware Gordon McGuinness \| April 17, 2015 CFF-overview-CB-beware As we continue to look through the mass of CFF data we have collected, we’re turning our attention to cornerbacks. After bringing you the top of the crop and sleepers earlier in the week we now turn our attention to the Buyer Beware section. The top of this cornerback class is filled with question marks and you can still find players 10-15 spots deep that aren’t too far away from the guys at the top. That means the guys at the top come with the added question mark of how much of a gamble you are taking by spending a high draft pick on them. So here are five players who we think teams should be wary of in the NFL draft. Trae Waynes, Michigan St. Waynes is regarded by many as the top cornerback in this class and at times it’s easy to see why. He has speed to burn and shows confidence, never looking worried about being beaten deep. He also holds the point well against a block and performs well against the run. Despite all that, though, there are some question marks that make him a risk to be selected as high as many are predicting. His awareness at times is questionable, and there are times when he lost the ball in the air by focusing too much on the wide receiver in front of him. Those lapses leave him flapping after noticing the ball in the air, leading to contact which could lead to more flags in the NFL. His tackling can also be a bit suspect as he has a tendency to throw himself at tackles in space, a little bit like Asante Samuel, rather than wrapping up. That’s something that will cost him a few big plays when he misses, and something he must clean up in the NFL. Signature stat: Missed a tackle once every 8.3 attempts. Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest CFF-inset-kevin-johnsonJohnson is also regarded as a first-round draft pick by many, but in a similar way to Justin Hardy at wide receiver he’s someone that neither myself nor Sam see the hype with. He does have great balance which stops him from being beaten immediately off the line where so much damage can be done, but there are too many question marks in the rest of his game. He doesn’t possess great top-level speed on the field. This will lead to him losing plenty of one-on-one battles with NFL receivers and at times it looked like he was deliberately playing off to protect his speed. The need to jump up from there and attack under routes led to him being beaten on double moves on more than one occasion. Like Waynes, he too can be a bit of a sloppy tackler at times, tilting his head down and trying to tackle blind far too often which led to 10 misses last season. Signature Stat: Missed a tackle once every 5.1 attempted, tied for the ninth-worst of all draft-eligible cornerbacks in this class. P.J. Williams, Florida St. CFF-inset-pj-williamsWilliams is arguably the most frustrating cornerback in this draft class and is the perfect example of how subset scouting can lead to a guy being overhyped. In his best games, he looked very good when getting his hands on a wide receiver early and attacked the run and screen passes aggressively, launching himself through blockers. The problem with Williams is inconsistency. As good as he looked against Louisville and DeVante Parker, he played very poorly against Syracuse, North Carolina State, and Georgia Tech. Very good when he gets his hands on a receiver, but as soon as he loses direct contact he struggles, something that will be a big issue in the NFL. Like the previous two we mentioned, he missed too many tackles in 2014. It’s not something he doesn’t look capable of, but poor technique such as arm tackles and trying to swat at the ball when he’s in a bad position give him big problems. Signature Stat: Williams allowed a quarterback rating of 100.0 on all passes thrown into his coverage. Eric Rowe, Utah CFF-inset-roweRowe is a cornerback who divides opinion, with some seeing him as a better prospect at safety than cornerback, while others think he’s a better fit at the position he played during his final season in college. One thing you can say for Rowe is he’s very strong. In the Washington State game he was too physical for the receivers he went up against and made life miserable for them. He’s physical enough that he makes contested catches tough on wide receivers, and works best in press-man when he’s able to get his hands on the wide receiver. The problem with Rowe is he looks very uncomfortable in off-coverage at times, looking lost and struggling to get a feel for everything around him. He also struggles with recovery speed so when he loses at the line of scrimmage he’s in trouble. Any success he has in the NFL will come from being able to get a good jam on wide receivers at the line of scrimmage unless he can improve his work in off-coverage. Signature Stat: Was targeted once every 6.6 snaps in coverage. College Football Focus Home Page https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...-buyer-beware/
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