Poop Eric Winston: Don't care if NFL 'dies out in 20 years' because of work stoppage

TLO · 08-22-2017, 01:45 PM

Winston not concerned if NFL dies out in 20 years

ESPN.com news services

NFL Players Association president Eric Winston agreed with DeMaurice Smith's recent comments that a work stoppage in 2021 is likely, given the current relationship between the union and the league.

But Winston took it a step further Monday in an interview with WCPO in Cincinnati, suggesting that players shouldn't care that a strike or lockout "might kill the goose that laid the golden egg."

"Honestly I don't care and I don't think the guys in this locker room care whether [the NFL] is going to be around in 20 years because none of us are going to be playing," Winston, an offensive tackle for the Bengals, told WCPO. "So if these guys [the owners] want to own for a long time, then they can own for a long time. But another work stoppage might kill the golden goose."

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NFLPA head: 2021 strike or lockout very likely
A work stoppage in 2021 is "almost a virtual certainty," NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith told Sports Illustrated in a video interview posted Thursday.

Smith, the union's executive director, said last week that "the likelihood of either a strike or a lockout is almost a virtual certainty."

The NFL's current collective bargaining agreement, which is set to expire in 2021, was finalized after a 132-day lockout in 2011.

Winston, 33, said the union is preparing its players for another prolonged labor dispute but emphasized that the long-term health of the NFL is not a concern of his.

"I'm certainly not worried about it," he said. "I'm not going to be around that long. I don't care if even if there are rookies in here -- they're not going to be playing that long.

"So if this thing dies out in 20 years, it dies out in 20 years. That's not really my concern, and I don't think it's any of these players' concern in here either."

Smith, when asked about Winston's comments during an interview Tuesday with ESPN's Outside The Lines, said the veteran offensive lineman is "a person who understands the frame and business of football."

"The owners locked us out the last time," Smith said. "They took the decision to make sure that people didn't have a place to work. They cut off the insurance to our families. They wanted to force an 18-game schedule. What are you supposed to do? Fight back, right?"

Winston is a 12-year veteran and has been the NFLPA's president since March 2014. He acknowledged that there are "always going to be issues between labor and management" but also said that a work stoppage will be the "inevitable outcome" unless serious progress is made in negotiations.

The NFLPA has clashed in recent years with the NFL over player discipline in such high-profile cases as Adrian Peterson's suspension for child abuse, Tom Brady's Deflategate suspension and, most recently, Ezekiel Elliott's suspension for alleged domestic violence.

Winston also was asked Monday why he thinks fans tend to side with ownership in labor disputes.

"My personal theory is [fans] think they have a stake in the team," he said. "I was as blindsided by it probably as anybody [in 2011]. ... They don't look at the issues the way we look at issues -- wages, hours, working conditions, and health and safety. You could talk about the same thing in a coal miners' union meeting as we do in our meetings.

"I think fans look at the team and say that that's their team -- they have an ownership in that. That's why you always hear fans say 'Oh, the salary cap,' and they think they're kinda the general managers. Obviously fantasy football and things like that play into it."

staylor26 · 08-22-2017, 01:47 PM

Ugh this mouth breather again

FlaChief58 · 08-22-2017, 05:54 PM

**notorious** · 08-22-2017, 01:47 PM

That will go over well.

TLO · 08-22-2017, 01:48 PM

**New World Order** · 08-22-2017, 01:48 PM

Dethpicable

ping2000 · 08-22-2017, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order

Dethpicable

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TLO · 08-22-2017, 01:48 PM

eDave · 08-22-2017, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke

Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.

KCUnited · 08-22-2017, 02:38 PM

Winston seems like the type of guy that has one of those Zombie Outbreak Response Team spare tire covers on his Jeep.

WhiteWhale · 08-22-2017, 01:55 PM

Fans don't have 'ownership'.

We're the customers. We just want our product, and we're assholes about it.

Seriously, what the **** was he talking about at the end there? Do you think Eric Winston gives a **** that his shoes are made in a sweat shop?

OmahaChief · 08-22-2017, 01:55 PM

Love these forward thinking football players. Winston showing off that he is a neanderthal. These guys should be told the same thing as any other worker..if you don't like working here please feel free to find a different line of work.

They complain about hours and work conditions..tell that crap to coal miners who toiled away and got black lung for much less. No one forces these football guys to play..they could go look for other jobs but instead they will take their millions and whine and cry about it. Whatever job you take you go into it knowing the risks associated with it. Man up and do your job or find one you feel fits you better. Tired of the whining.

RobBlake · 08-22-2017, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OmahaChief

Love these forward thinking football players. Winston showing off that he is a neanderthal. These guys should be told the same thing as any other worker..if you don't like working here please feel free to find a different line of work.

They complain about hours and work conditions..tell that crap to coal miners who toiled away and got black lung for much less. No one forces these football guys to play..they could go look for other jobs but instead they will take their millions and whine and cry about it. Whatever job you take you go into it knowing the risks associated with it. Man up and do your job or find one you feel fits you better. Tired of the whining.

I don't fully believe and agree with you. There should be protection of the workers. Just because there's a difference of degrees to auburn doesn't mean there isn't pain associated with each one.

Eleazar · 08-22-2017, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke

Winston also was asked Monday why he thinks fans tend to side with ownership in labor disputes.

"My personal theory is [fans] think they have a stake in the team," he said. "I was as blindsided by it probably as anybody [in 2011]. ... They don't look at the issues the way we look at issues -- wages, hours, working conditions, and health and safety. You could talk about the same thing in a coal miners' union meeting as we do in our meetings.

How much do coal miners make, again?

**Dartgod** · 08-22-2017, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

How much do coal miners make, again?

A Coal Mine Worker earns an average wage of $23.04 per hour.

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/...er/Hourly_Rate

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TLO Life is changing.. Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NW Missouri Casino cash: $-2670000	Eric Winston: Don't care if NFL 'dies out in 20 years' because of work stoppage Winston not concerned if NFL dies out in 20 years ESPN.com news services NFL Players Association president Eric Winston agreed with DeMaurice Smith's recent comments that a work stoppage in 2021 is likely, given the current relationship between the union and the league. But Winston took it a step further Monday in an interview with WCPO in Cincinnati, suggesting that players shouldn't care that a strike or lockout "might kill the goose that laid the golden egg." "Honestly I don't care and I don't think the guys in this locker room care whether [the NFL] is going to be around in 20 years because none of us are going to be playing," Winston, an offensive tackle for the Bengals, told WCPO. "So if these guys [the owners] want to own for a long time, then they can own for a long time. But another work stoppage might kill the golden goose." EDITOR'S PICKS Why Roger Goodell's NFL reign isn't in danger Fans love to hate The Commish, but he's now likely to have a tenure that surpasses his predecessor Paul Tagliabue's in length. NFLPA head: 2021 strike or lockout very likely A work stoppage in 2021 is "almost a virtual certainty," NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith told Sports Illustrated in a video interview posted Thursday. Smith, the union's executive director, said last week that "the likelihood of either a strike or a lockout is almost a virtual certainty." The NFL's current collective bargaining agreement, which is set to expire in 2021, was finalized after a 132-day lockout in 2011. Winston, 33, said the union is preparing its players for another prolonged labor dispute but emphasized that the long-term health of the NFL is not a concern of his. "I'm certainly not worried about it," he said. "I'm not going to be around that long. I don't care if even if there are rookies in here -- they're not going to be playing that long. "So if this thing dies out in 20 years, it dies out in 20 years. That's not really my concern, and I don't think it's any of these players' concern in here either." Smith, when asked about Winston's comments during an interview Tuesday with ESPN's Outside The Lines, said the veteran offensive lineman is "a person who understands the frame and business of football." "The owners locked us out the last time," Smith said. "They took the decision to make sure that people didn't have a place to work. They cut off the insurance to our families. They wanted to force an 18-game schedule. What are you supposed to do? Fight back, right?" Winston is a 12-year veteran and has been the NFLPA's president since March 2014. He acknowledged that there are "always going to be issues between labor and management" but also said that a work stoppage will be the "inevitable outcome" unless serious progress is made in negotiations. The NFLPA has clashed in recent years with the NFL over player discipline in such high-profile cases as Adrian Peterson's suspension for child abuse, Tom Brady's Deflategate suspension and, most recently, Ezekiel Elliott's suspension for alleged domestic violence. Winston also was asked Monday why he thinks fans tend to side with ownership in labor disputes. "My personal theory is [fans] think they have a stake in the team," he said. "I was as blindsided by it probably as anybody [in 2011]. ... They don't look at the issues the way we look at issues -- wages, hours, working conditions, and health and safety. You could talk about the same thing in a coal miners' union meeting as we do in our meetings. "I think fans look at the team and say that that's their team -- they have an ownership in that. That's why you always hear fans say 'Oh, the salary cap,' and they think they're kinda the general managers. Obviously fantasy football and things like that play into it."
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