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Old 07-19-2019, 09:36 AM   Topic Starter
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Let’s talk about the upside of this offense
With the Cheetah back in the fold all season, this offense may look even better on paper than last year...

I don’t know that the production is the same, but man for man, they appear more dangerous... sure Hunt is better than Williams, but I think the RB room is filled with depth that can fill out roles...

The WR room is as deep as it is stout. Speed and more speed. If Hardman can pick things up quick, look out...

If we can avoid catastrophic injuries, I see no reason why this isn’t a 12-16 win team.... yeah, I said it...

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Old 07-19-2019, 09:40 AM   #2
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Old 07-19-2019, 09:43 AM   #3
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If the defense is league average or better, we’ll go 15-1 or 16-0

If it’s in the lower 20s, we’ll probably win 12.

The offense is going to be legendary (again). Possibly better than last year. Mahomes has a year under his belt, we’ve added Hard Man, Watkins seems to be primed for a good year, we just need Kelce to come back healthy. Hopefully the preseason allows to shake off any rust.

Not to mention Reid expanding the playbook (with some help from Pat, I’m sure) and Bienemy not being stolen away. It’s a perfect storm, really.

I am interested to see what happens at the RB position. Wanna see Darwin Thompson in action badly, he seems like an obvious steal and a great fit in this offense. Hyde and D Will 2 should compete for some carries as well.
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Old 07-19-2019, 09:45 AM   #4
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It’s faster
Just look at things from a speed perspective:

Hill=Hill
Kelce=Kelce
Watkins=Watkins
Hardman>Conley
Robinson=Robinson
Williams>Hunt

That’s the fastest receiver, a very fast TE, Watkins claims to be in better shape, Hardman is a burner, Robinson has some speed, and Damien Williams is the fastest RB we’ve had since Charles. Oh, and Mahomes is probably gonna be a bit faster (and stronger) this year a season well

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How do you defend 4 vert routes if all the WRs are sub 4.4?
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How do you defend 4 vert routes if all the WRs are sub 4.4?
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Old 07-19-2019, 10:10 AM   #7
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How do you defend 4 vert routes if all the WRs are sub 4.4?
Hope / Pray for a delayed hand off / draw play.
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Old 07-19-2019, 12:10 PM   #8
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A few things....
I hope Hardman will be used not just as a receiver but as a receiving option DAT was supposed to be. We need an underneath option who can also get tons of YAC.

Mahomes will be better. Ravens and Pats found a blueprint to scheme him as best they can. No doubt Reid has found a fix. And Brandon Daly is a wildly underrated move for our offense. He will make sure mahomes sees these fronts in practice.

Williams is fine. But mahomes has to be better at finding the check down when needed. Darwin will help us get the bowling ball yards we used to get with kareem.

I loved hearing mahomes say was he's working on his footwork. I actually think he's been too inaccurate on the deep stuff and I hate when he throws off his back foot when he doesn't need to. We were awesome on long plays. It's amazing to think we should have been even better.
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Old 07-19-2019, 11:50 AM   #9
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It’s faster
Just look at things from a speed perspective:

Hill=Hill
Kelce=Kelce
Watkins=Watkins
Hardman>Conley
Robinson=Robinson
Williams>Hunt

That’s the fastest receiver, a very fast TE, Watkins claims to be in better shape, Hardman is a burner, Robinson has some speed, and Damien Williams is the fastest RB we’ve had since Charles. Oh, and Mahomes is probably gonna be a bit faster (and stronger) this year a season well

!!!!!!
I wouldn't say Williams > Hunt, as I think Hunt is better. But the drop off is absolutely minimal as Williams is faster than Hunt but Hunt is more powerful and harder to tackle. But Williams having a full year as the primary back, he's about to have an absolute career year.

Also, Darwin Thompson is about to break out the second half of the year// I'm ****ing ready for Mahomes to have 98 TDS and 6235 yards
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I wouldn't say Williams > Hunt, as I think Hunt is better. But the drop off is absolutely minimal as Williams is faster than Hunt but Hunt is more powerful and harder to tackle. But Williams having a full year as the primary back, he's about to have an absolute career year.

Also, Darwin Thompson is about to break out the second half of the year// I'm ****ing ready for Mahomes to have 98 TDS and 6235 yards
He said from a speed perspective, you agreed. Lol.
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Old 07-19-2019, 06:58 PM   #11
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It’s faster
Just look at things from a speed perspective:

Hill=Hill
Kelce=Kelce
Watkins=Watkins
Hardman>Conley
Robinson=Robinson
Williams>Hunt

That’s the fastest receiver, a very fast TE, Watkins claims to be in better shape, Hardman is a burner, Robinson has some speed, and Damien Williams is the fastest RB we’ve had since Charles. Oh, and Mahomes is probably gonna be a bit faster (and stronger) this year a season well

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I'm with you except the Hunt part. Hunt was a bad ass RB both running and catching the ball. Williams is not Hunt and not so sure he is faster or faster to the point that it matters.
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Old 07-19-2019, 07:12 PM   #12
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I'm with you except the Hunt part. Hunt was a bad ass RB both running and catching the ball. Williams is not Hunt and not so sure he is faster or faster to the point that it matters.
IMO, Hunt is the best back in football.

Everyone produces in Andy's offense, and ultimately RB doens't matter THAT much... but you watch Hunt shed 2 guys, leap a dude, and then plow a guy 5 years into the endzone. He's ****ing awesome. Always at the top of yards AFTER contact.

Williams was a 3rd string pass catching back. He didn't become awesome. Andy's run scheme is awesome. He just panics and abandons it too often.

Hunt made more game changing plays, but Williams is fine given the cast we have. He'll be supplanted in the near future anyway.
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IMO, Hunt is the best back in football.

Everyone produces in Andy's offense, and ultimately RB doens't matter THAT much... but you watch Hunt shed 2 guys, leap a dude, and then plow a guy 5 years into the endzone. He's ****ing awesome. Always at the top of yards AFTER contact.

Williams was a 3rd string pass catching back. He didn't become awesome. Andy's run scheme is awesome. He just panics and abandons it too often.

Hunt made more game changing plays, but Williams is fine given the cast we have. He'll be supplanted in the near future anyway.
Totally agree. Watching that Chargers game today at 10 minutes in qtr 4 Williams tkes a run and I swear, his burst was exactly like Tyreek Hill. I thought thats who had the ball. He levels that defender making the tackle.
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If the defense is league average or better, we’ll go 15-1 or 16-0

If it’s in the lower 20s, we’ll probably win 12.

The offense is going to be legendary (again). Possibly better than last year. Mahomes has a year under his belt, we’ve added Hard Man, Watkins seems to be primed for a good year, we just need Kelce to come back healthy. Hopefully the preseason allows to shake off any rust.

Not to mention Reid expanding the playbook (with some help from Pat, I’m sure) and Bienemy not being stolen away. It’s a perfect storm, really.

I am interested to see what happens at the RB position. Wanna see Darwin Thompson in action badly, he seems like an obvious steal and a great fit in this offense. Hyde and D Will 2 should compete for some carries as well.
If Darwin Thompson turns into a Darren Sproles or Tarik Cohen type of player this offense could go down as the best ever. Thompsons burst and allusiveness is off the charts along with his pass catching ability out of the backfield. We all know you cant play zone vs. Mahomes and that cannon of an arm. The Colts figured that out the hard way. Play man and Thompson is singled on a linebacker with choice routes out of the backfield. Absolute field day ALL.DAY.LONG! Just too many weapons to defend.
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With the Cheetah back in the fold all season, this offense may look even better on paper than last year...

I don’t know that the production is the same, but man for man, they appear more dangerous... sure Hunt is better than Williams, but I think the RB room is filled with depth that can fill out roles...

The WR room is as deep as it is stout. Speed and more speed. If Hardman can pick things up quick, look out...

If we can avoid catastrophic injuries, I see no reason why this isn’t a 12-16 win team.... yeah, I said it...

Now go fap away with these Tyreek highlights: https://youtu.be/uDwlF_hgFjI
I think Kelce is key here. We can afford a WR injury, but not one at TE.
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