Movies and TV Netflix Limited Series - Unbelievable

**007** · 09-18-2019, 10:45 PM

Not very many series suck me in and provoke an emotional response quite like this one did. Anger, sadness, apathy, resentment, shock. I could add a few more but I don't want to give anything away. Probably one of the absolute best tv productions I have seen in a long time.

Don't watch the series trailer or read the description. Just watch it.

I would also suggest using spoilers here until people have completed it if you do watch.

Truly powerful drama.

**Baby Lee** · 09-18-2019, 10:58 PM

How quick does it draw you in?
I have it on queue, but the new series Criminal and the new Ken Burns doc both just dropped as well.

**007** · 09-18-2019, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

How quick does it draw you in?
I have it on queue, but the new series Criminal and the new Ken Burns doc both just dropped as well.

One episode

KCUnited · 09-19-2019, 06:48 AM

I recently finished this. I agree that it draws you in and gets into your feels with episode one. I watched it over the course of a week to 10 days, so maybe it was burnout, but I was gripped early on then thought the acting/directing fizzled into a Chicago Fire/Med/PD quality towards the end which eroded some its captivation.

**007** · 09-19-2019, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

I recently finished this. I agree that it draws you in and gets into your feels with episode one. I watched it over the course of a week to 10 days, so maybe it was burnout, but I was gripped early on then thought the acting/directing fizzled into a Chicago Fire/Med/PD quality towards the end which eroded some its captivation.

I'm honestly surprised you feel that way. This show captivated me right to the end. I've never seen any of the Chicago shows so I can't compare it.

KCUnited · 09-19-2019, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 007

I'm honestly surprised you feel that way. This show captivated me right to the end. I've never seen any of the Chicago shows so I can't compare it.

It's just a slight criticism on my part. I thought some of the detective interactions were a little melodramatic and inauthentic. Some of the storylines were done rather lazily, imo.

Spoiler!

I've never seen any of the Chicago shows either, so that probably wasn't the best example, but I was using them to showcase the difference between an HBO, and even AMC type of series, and a CBS/NBC/ABC type of series which is what this started to feel like for me towards the end. Again, only a slight criticism as the story is most definitely captivating.

cripple creek · 09-19-2019, 10:04 AM

the blacklist season 6 is solid..(at least thru the first 2 episodes I've watched so far this morning

**007** · 09-19-2019, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cripple creek

the blacklist season 6 is solid..(at least thru the first 2 episodes I've watched so far this morning

Ummm ok?

Halfcan · 09-19-2019, 10:24 AM

Pretty great series- I enjoyed it.

rocknrolla · 09-19-2019, 12:04 PM

One episode is all it takes. I watched over the weekend, "Lifetime" movie expectations. It is very well done.

**007** · 09-19-2019, 03:47 PM

I loved it when she said, "I-70 through Topeka was miserable"

KCUnited · 09-19-2019, 03:58 PM

I remember back in early 90's, Car Audio Magazine published an article titled something along the lines of "Tips From a Thief" thinking they were providing real life insights into protecting your car stereo system and instead it turned into a blueprint on how to steal peoples shit that most potential thieves had never considered prior to reading.

First thing I thought of when she was in Kansas.

**Baby Lee** · 10-20-2019, 01:29 AM

This thread put it on my radar, This American Life put it into the priority lane.

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/581/anatomy-of-doubt

You can listen at the link above. They replayed the interviews that were the foundation for the series this past week. There is also a Pulitzer winning article on the matter.

I ended up watching the whole thing in a go. Some of it I monitored as I did weekend chores [dishes, laundry, etc]. But the whole thing drew me in, as the OP predicted.

What surprised me about it was the lack of affect and how effective that lack of affect was. There are no big speeches or histrionic scenery-chewing confrontations.

It is intriguing, frustrating, tense and angering just by the matter-of-fact recitation of the progression of events and the lack of a true demon [aside from the obvious one].

It is, in part a meditation on the subtle distinctions between doing a proper job and doing a committed empathetic job. There are big failures, and in retrospect, they are galling and inexcusable. But they are not failures of malice. They are failures of exhaustion, confusion, misinformation, imperfect information and/or inexperience.

And the portrayal of the central victim, without spoiling the narrative, hews true to the sense of her you get from the NPR/TAL interviews. Whenever people feel it proper to speak in spoiler terms, I have a lot more to say on it. But for now, it suffices to say I found it engrossing and compelling, as a story, as a performance, and as a method of telling.

In short, I started. And once I started I couldn't stop until I was finished. Seems like a firm recommendation to me.

09-18-2019, 10:45 PM	Topic Starter
007 Shaken. Not stirred. Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Casino cash: $13850126 VARSITY	Netflix Limited Series - Unbelievable Not very many series suck me in and provoke an emotional response quite like this one did. Anger, sadness, apathy, resentment, shock. I could add a few more but I don't want to give anything away. Probably one of the absolute best tv productions I have seen in a long time. Don't watch the series trailer or read the description. Just watch it. I would also suggest using spoilers here until people have completed it if you do watch. Truly powerful drama.
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09-18-2019, 10:58 PM	#2
Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $6838598	How quick does it draw you in? I have it on queue, but the new series Criminal and the new Ken Burns doc both just dropped as well. __________________ We need the kind of courage that can withstand the subtle corruption of the cynics - E.W.
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09-19-2019, 06:48 AM	#4
KCUnited Cheat Death Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Land of Drincoln Casino cash: $1798244	I recently finished this. I agree that it draws you in and gets into your feels with episode one. I watched it over the course of a week to 10 days, so maybe it was burnout, but I was gripped early on then thought the acting/directing fizzled into a Chicago Fire/Med/PD quality towards the end which eroded some its captivation.
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09-19-2019, 10:04 AM	#7
cripple creek Starter Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: independence,mo Casino cash: $2972825	the blacklist season 6 is solid..(at least thru the first 2 episodes I've watched so far this morning
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09-19-2019, 10:24 AM	#9
Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	Pretty great series- I enjoyed it.
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09-19-2019, 12:04 PM	#10
rocknrolla I'm the MFCEO Join Date: May 2011 Casino cash: $1805632	One episode is all it takes. I watched over the weekend, "Lifetime" movie expectations. It is very well done.
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09-19-2019, 03:47 PM	#11
007 Shaken. Not stirred. Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Casino cash: $13850126 VARSITY	I loved it when she said, "I-70 through Topeka was miserable" __________________ My dear girl, there are some things that just aren’t done. Such as, drinking Dom Perignon ’53 above the temperature of 38 degrees Fahrenheit. That’s just as bad as listening to the Beatles without earmuffs.
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09-19-2019, 03:58 PM	#12
KCUnited Cheat Death Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Land of Drincoln Casino cash: $1798244	I remember back in early 90's, Car Audio Magazine published an article titled something along the lines of "Tips From a Thief" thinking they were providing real life insights into protecting your car stereo system and instead it turned into a blueprint on how to steal peoples shit that most potential thieves had never considered prior to reading. First thing I thought of when she was in Kansas.
Posts: 34,198

10-20-2019, 01:29 AM	#13
Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $6838598	This thread put it on my radar, This American Life put it into the priority lane. https://www.thisamericanlife.org/581/anatomy-of-doubt You can listen at the link above. They replayed the interviews that were the foundation for the series this past week. There is also a Pulitzer winning article on the matter. I ended up watching the whole thing in a go. Some of it I monitored as I did weekend chores [dishes, laundry, etc]. But the whole thing drew me in, as the OP predicted. What surprised me about it was the lack of affect and how effective that lack of affect was. There are no big speeches or histrionic scenery-chewing confrontations. It is intriguing, frustrating, tense and angering just by the matter-of-fact recitation of the progression of events and the lack of a true demon [aside from the obvious one]. It is, in part a meditation on the subtle distinctions between doing a proper job and doing a committed empathetic job. There are big failures, and in retrospect, they are galling and inexcusable. But they are not failures of malice. They are failures of exhaustion, confusion, misinformation, imperfect information and/or inexperience. And the portrayal of the central victim, without spoiling the narrative, hews true to the sense of her you get from the NPR/TAL interviews. Whenever people feel it proper to speak in spoiler terms, I have a lot more to say on it. But for now, it suffices to say I found it engrossing and compelling, as a story, as a performance, and as a method of telling. In short, I started. And once I started I couldn't stop until I was finished. Seems like a firm recommendation to me. __________________ We need the kind of courage that can withstand the subtle corruption of the cynics - E.W.
Posts: 95,642