News Indian Group Suggests Chief Wahoo is Racist!

**gblowfish** · 10-10-2013, 03:22 PM

Actually, I think the "New York Jews" hat is kinda cool. I'd like to have one. Maybe as a Christmas...errr...Hanukkah present???

http://gamedayr.com/sports/mlb/ameri...s-logo-racism/

**fan4ever** · 10-10-2013, 03:24 PM

I will only buy the NY Jews hat if I can talk them down on the price.

**gblowfish** · 10-10-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fan4ever

I will only buy the NY Jews hat if I can talk them down on the price.

WHAT? This hat is made of quality material! Feel that cloth, that's a high thread count! This hat is a bargain at TWICE the price!

Discuss Thrower · 10-10-2013, 03:24 PM

There's no way KC keeps its mascot if the momentum forces DC and Cleveland to change theirs.

vailpass · 10-10-2013, 03:25 PM

They aren't Indians...now I need a Buttweiser and Yumbo Yack/Holmberg KDKB Phoenix

ILChief · 10-10-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

There's no way KC keeps its mascot if the momentum forces DC and Cleveland to change theirs.

well technically the word "Chief" has other meanings besides Native Americans. Fire Chiefs, Police Chiefs, etc.

Of course the whole arrowhead thing may hurt us

RINGLEADER · 10-10-2013, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

well technically the word "Chief" has other meanings besides Native Americans. Fire Chiefs, Police Chiefs, etc.

Of course the whole arrowhead thing may hurt us

Screw 'em. Just change the arrowhead to a police badge.

GloucesterChief · 10-10-2013, 05:58 PM

The chief name can still be used. Instead of using the Native America theme the team can simply change it to a fire chief or police chief or can reference another group. For example if you go European you get:

As your new logo.

cosmo20002 · 10-10-2013, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

There's no way KC keeps its mascot if the momentum forces DC and Cleveland to change theirs.

KC Wolf?

Jamie · 10-10-2013, 03:36 PM

Hopefully intelligence would prevail, and most people would see the difference between a cultural reference and a racial one.

Reerun_KC · 10-10-2013, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

Hopefully intelligence would prevail, and most people would see the difference between a cultural reference and a racial one.

You are talking about American's, the country of mouth breathers and soup sandwiches...

We are quickly becoming the dumbest nation on the planet... Its so freaking sad but true...

Just Passin' By · 10-10-2013, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

Hopefully intelligence would prevail....

You do realize that the people behind shit like this are winning politically because the average american is a ****ing moron, right?

Jamie · 10-10-2013, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

You do realize that the people behind shit like this are winning politically because the average american is a ****ing moron, right?

At the risk of derailing this thread, I fall on the left side of the political spectrum. For the record I think the Indians mascot should be changed but I'm okay with the name; I'm on the fence about the Redskins. Also I think the Washington Wizards should go back to being the Bullets immediately.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 10-10-2013, 05:06 PM

I think Washington should be renamed the Washington" Red Skinheads"

displacedinMN · 10-10-2013, 05:14 PM

Just in the MPLS paper today

A new strategy in the movement to replace the Washington Redskins’ long-maligned moniker has taken root in Minnesota, the place a coalition of Native American groups say is ground zero for eradicating the NFL logo and mascot they consider as defamatory as the “N-word.”

Change the Mascot, a campaign consisting of organizations including the Minneapolis-based American Indian Movement, asked the Minnesota Sports Facilities Authority to refrain from printing or broadcasting the Redskins’ name or logo within the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome during the team’s Nov. 7 matchup against the Minnesota Vikings. Doing so within a publicly owned facility, they reasoned, violates federal labor laws, hate-speech protections and the civil rights of Native Americans. Failure to abide by the request could result in legal action ranging from a temporary injunction to a class-action lawsuit on behalf of Indian children, said Change the Mascot member Alan Yelsey.

Minnesota’s large Indian population, combined with a soon-to-be rebuilt publicly owned stadium, and the support of Rep. Betty McCollum, co-chair of the Congressional Native American Caucus and an outspoken critic of the name, make for the perfect elements to make the first attempt, he added.

“There’s no difference between the “R-word” and the “N-word,” Yelsey said. “There’s no reason why this discriminatory and damaging term needs to be used when alternatives exist. We’re not trying to change the name, although we prefer it changed. We’re saying it’s illegal to use the name in a public facility and place of employment, and to ensure its use is the very definition of institutional racism.”

MSFA Chair Michele Kelm-Helgen said Thursday that the board heard and understood the concerns at last week’s meeting, but that it’s too early to make a move.

“The NFL has very specific rules about what happens when teams play in our facility, and that’s what we’re looking at with the NFL and our attorneys,” she said. “At this point, I’m not even sure what our options would be.”

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displacedinMN It was not a fair catch Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Correcting papers Casino cash: $2402630	Just in the MPLS paper today A new strategy in the movement to replace the Washington Redskins’ long-maligned moniker has taken root in Minnesota, the place a coalition of Native American groups say is ground zero for eradicating the NFL logo and mascot they consider as defamatory as the “N-word.” Change the Mascot, a campaign consisting of organizations including the Minneapolis-based American Indian Movement, asked the Minnesota Sports Facilities Authority to refrain from printing or broadcasting the Redskins’ name or logo within the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome during the team’s Nov. 7 matchup against the Minnesota Vikings. Doing so within a publicly owned facility, they reasoned, violates federal labor laws, hate-speech protections and the civil rights of Native Americans. Failure to abide by the request could result in legal action ranging from a temporary injunction to a class-action lawsuit on behalf of Indian children, said Change the Mascot member Alan Yelsey. Minnesota’s large Indian population, combined with a soon-to-be rebuilt publicly owned stadium, and the support of Rep. Betty McCollum, co-chair of the Congressional Native American Caucus and an outspoken critic of the name, make for the perfect elements to make the first attempt, he added. “There’s no difference between the “R-word” and the “N-word,” Yelsey said. “There’s no reason why this discriminatory and damaging term needs to be used when alternatives exist. We’re not trying to change the name, although we prefer it changed. We’re saying it’s illegal to use the name in a public facility and place of employment, and to ensure its use is the very definition of institutional racism.” MSFA Chair Michele Kelm-Helgen said Thursday that the board heard and understood the concerns at last week’s meeting, but that it’s too early to make a move. “The NFL has very specific rules about what happens when teams play in our facility, and that’s what we’re looking at with the NFL and our attorneys,” she said. “At this point, I’m not even sure what our options would be.” Abby Simons • 612-673-4921 __________________ #investigatecarlcheffers
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