Internet Gates BBQ sauce recipe - authentic?

[cdcox]

I don't live in the KC area or I'd just go out and buy some. And yes, I know you can order it through the mail. But I found this recipe for "Gates BBQ sauce" on the internet in several places. Has anyone tried it and found it to be somewhat similar to the original?


Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
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1 cup sugar
1/4 cup salt
2 tablespoons celery seed
2 tablespoons cumin powder
2 tablespoons Cayenne pepper
2 tablespoons garlic powder
1 tablespoon chili powder
2 quarts Ketchup
2 cups cider vinegar
1 1/2 teaspoons liquid smoke
1 teaspoon lemon juice

Mix together all the spices. Set aside.

Combine the remaining ingredients and then add the spice mixture.
Mix well.

Serve warm or cold. Freezes well.

[R&GHomer]

Sorry, don't have a clue.

One question back at ya. With the chili powder, would that be the same stuff you buy in the store and mix with ground beef to make taco's.

[KCWolfman]

Originally Posted by R&GHomer

Sorry, don't have a clue.

One question back at ya. With the chili powder, would that be the same stuff you buy in the store and mix with ground beef to make taco's.

Yes it is the same.


On Gates, I would doubt the recipe is precise. He pretty well held his cards close to his vest on that one. It may be similar though. Give it a shot and let us know.

[R&GHomer]

Originally Posted by KCWolfman

Yes it is the same.


On Gates, I would doubt the recipe is precise. He pretty well held his cards close to his vest on that one. It may be similar though. Give it a shot and let us know.

Thanks Kcwolfman.

I’m really getting pretty good at smoking and it’s time to wean myself off the store bought stuff and start making my own.

[R&GHomer]

Try this link for some really good ideas and tips for BBQ.
http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/faq2/toc.html

[Boozer]

I would be surprised if the real Gates sauce had ketchup in it. By the same token, I bet that recipe makes something that tastes like Gates sauce, at least "close enough for government work."

[Uncle_Ted]

I assume the recipe also calls for you to cook it?

I'd say bring it to a soft boil and cook for 20 min or so, stirring constantly.

Ketchup in the recipe doesn't surprise me one bit. Many good sauces are ketchup-based, or a combination of ketchup + tomato paste. The brand of ketchup will make a difference though. I'd recommend DelMonte (not the best ketchup, but makes good sauce).

I don't have any particular knowledge of what's in Gates' sauce, but that all looks about right for a decent BBQ sauce, except you might need to add some water if it comes out too thick (though with all that vinegar it's probably ok).

good luck!

[Over-Head]

Gonna try this in about an hour,,,got the charcoal warming up now

[alanm]

Originally Posted by Over-Head

Gonna try this in about an hour,,,got the charcoal warming up now

Keep us posted as to the results OH. If all goes well I may try this out also.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Over-Head

Gonna try this in about an hour,,,got the charcoal warming up now

ya gonna boil it on a charcoal grill?

[DanT]

Originally Posted by Boozer

I would be surprised if the real Gates sauce had ketchup in it. By the same token, I bet that recipe makes something that tastes like Gates sauce, at least "close enough for government work."

I'd be surprised if it didn't. jettio, my older brother and I grew up a coupla' blocks from his Swope Parkway location, which is where they used to make the stuff. When my older brother was about 8 or so, Mr. Gates gave him a job doing odd jobs around the plant. (Mr. Gates was well-known in the neighborhood for being kind to kids.) Anyway, my older brother said that ketchup was a main ingredient in the sauce. I don't think it was considered a secret or anything.

[Jenson71]

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[DanT]

Here's a really good New Yorker article on ketchup. Not all ketchup is the same. Apparently, Heinz kicks ass.

http://www.gladwell.com/2004/2004_09_06_a_ketchup.html

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Jenson71

Hello - commatard on the loose.Hello - commatard on the loose.

[Logical]

Originally Posted by Boozer

I would be surprised if the real Gates sauce had ketchup in it. By the same token, I bet that recipe makes something that tastes like Gates sauce, at least "close enough for government work."

I agree but I would much rather have the ingredients for Bryant's Q sauce. That is probably locked away in the Smithsonian as a national treasure though.