Tonight's Game / KC Playoff's Chances / AFC Overview

Amnorix · 11-22-2004, 07:46 AM

Tonight's game should be a very interesting matchup. The Chiefs record, obviously, does not reflect how scary they are on offense. The battle between the Chiefs offense and the Pats defense should be very interesting indeed to see.

The Steelers' offensive line blew the Pats defense away, of course, but alot of the problems there were more technique than anything else and (according to Patriots coaches' quotes lately) correctable. The Chiefs offensive line is at least as good if not better than the Steelers, so if nothing else we'll see if our defense is able to deal well with an outstanding offensive line.

Unfortunately, it looks like the Chiefs are just playing for pride. As other threads have noted, victories yesterday by the Jets, Ravens, Colts, Broncos, Chargers and Steelers have sealed the deal for the Chiefs in terms of making the playoffs. 10-6 is the best the Chiefs can do, against a pretty tough schedule, and 10 wins won't get them a wildcard in the mighty AFC. The AFC West is also not likely to be winnable given that the Chiefs are pretty far behind not one, but two teams.

The AFC's domination of the NFC continued yesterday, and it's beyond clear that the balance of power that used to favor the NFC in the 80s, etc. is now clearly with the AFC. The Rams have 5 losses, 3 of which are to AFC East teams (including the cellar dwelling Dolphins and Bills). The Iggles were utterly crushed by the Steelers for their only loss, and squeaked by the Ravens by a 15-10 score, at home. The Colts only losses have come to AFC Teams, while they have beaten all of their NFC opponents, which includes the best the NFC North has to offer (Green Bay and Minnesota). The Patriots have steamrolled St. Louis and Seattle, beat Arizona in AZ comfortably, and have only the Niners left to play. Pittsburgh's only loss, of course, came to division rival Baltimore.

The AFC wildcard will require at least 11 wins to achieve, and the battle to go to the Super Bowl from the AFC will be extremely intense. I have little doubt that whoever wins the AFC Championship game will win the Super Bowl.

**BigRedChief** · 11-22-2004, 07:58 AM

I don't know that Philly teams looks pretty tough right now. TO is in a zone. The QB can run around for 14 seconds and wait for a player to get open. They ain't gonna be a push over. They have been to the NFC championship 3 straight years. Maybe TO puts them over the top?

Amnorix · 11-22-2004, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I don't know that Philly teams looks pretty tough right now. TO is in a zone. The QB can run around for 14 seconds and wait for a player to get open. They ain't gonna be a push over. They have been to the NFC championship 3 straight years. Maybe TO puts them over the top?

I'd agree, but (1) the top AFC Teams (Pittsburgh and NE, IMHO) have good defenses, and more importantly, all the very good AFC teams have strong running games, and the Iggles run defense is horrendous.

IMHO the Iggles get to the SB, but don't take home the prize.

Mile High Mania · 11-22-2004, 08:12 AM

It pains you to list the Steelers up there with the Pats, doesn't it.... I can sense it.

Amnorix · 11-22-2004, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

It pains you to list the Steelers up there with the Pats, doesn't it.... I can sense it.

Nah. Seriously. I lived in Pittsburgh for almost 2 years, and the fans there are passionate. I loved the battles we had in the mid 90s (some good games there, with the Pittsburgh beating us twice (once regular season, once playoffs) in very memorable, hardfought games in 1997.

I don't hate 'em. But I'd LOVE a rematch in the AFC Championship Game. Frankly, they pounded us into the dirt a few weeks ago, and I'd like payback for that. But if they go to the SB, they will be more than worthy.

The Donks and Faiders are the only non-AFC East teams I can say I seriously dislike...

CHIEF4EVER · 11-22-2004, 08:26 AM

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The Donks and Faiders are the only non-AFC East teams I can say I seriously dislike...

You are among the blessed......

Mile High Mania · 11-22-2004, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Nah. Seriously. I lived in Pittsburgh for almost 2 years, and the fans there are passionate. I loved the battles we had in the mid 90s (some good games there, with the Pittsburgh beating us twice (once regular season, once playoffs) in very memorable, hardfought games in 1997.

I don't hate 'em. But I'd LOVE a rematch in the AFC Championship Game. Frankly, they pounded us into the dirt a few weeks ago, and I'd like payback for that. But if they go to the SB, they will be more than worthy.

The Donks and Faiders are the only non-AFC East teams I can say I seriously dislike...

I hear ya - I'd like to see DEN/NE in the playoffs, simply b/c DEN was so close to beating them last year. The AFC is a tough one this year. I have to say that I am a bit in awe at what the Steelers have done with Big Ben at QB. It's very impressive.

StcChief · 11-22-2004, 08:16 AM

I agree...

Unfortunately, it looks like the Chiefs are just playing for pride. This is our superbowl this year.
I look for NE or Pitt to take the superbowl easily.

The AFC championship will be the best game in the playoffs.

The AFC is the toughest conference now without a doubt top to bottom.

Tonight.....
As long as the Chiefs don't get stomped I'll be happy. This Jeykle and Hyde team especially on D, has sealed our playoff chances and even being a wildcard why bother now. Lets go for some good D picks/trade for next year.

CHIEF4EVER · 11-22-2004, 08:19 AM

There ain't a chance in Hades that we make the playoffs this year. Even the most optimistic Chieftain has to admit that it is nearly impossible (read: ME)

**BigRedChief** · 11-22-2004, 08:30 AM

Hey we put 50+ points up on a good Atlanta team. We made Ray Ray look foolish. Maybe lightening can strike 3 times this season. Arrowhead will be a rocking no matter what. Gonna be fun.

Mile High Mania · 11-22-2004, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Hey we put 50+ points up on a good Atlanta team. We made Ray Ray look foolish. Maybe lightening can strike 3 times this season. Arrowhead will be a rocking no matter what. Gonna be fun.

That is exactly why a KC win would not shock me... KC has been a weird team this season to say the least.

KCTitus · 11-22-2004, 08:36 AM

Here's my breakdown/analysis of the game tonight...

Tonight KC will play NE in Arrowhead and has a chance to win.

That's the way I see it.

Amnorix · 11-22-2004, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

Here's my breakdown/analysis of the game tonight...

Tonight KC will play NE in Arrowhead and has a chance to win.

That's the way I see it.

You better hope your boys can run on my boys, or I'll be calling you out after our discussion of last week...

KCTitus · 11-22-2004, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

You better hope your boys can run on my boys, or I'll be calling you out after our discussion of last week...

Fine, but with Holmes out, it changes the dynamic.

InChiefsHeaven · 11-22-2004, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

Here's my breakdown/analysis of the game tonight...

Tonight KC will play NE in Arrowhead and has a chance to win.

That's the way I see it.

Wow!! Way to go out on a limb!!

Way I see it, Chiefs win, cuz they shouldn't. I've said it before, we'll beat the Pats and the Donks, sweep the Raiders and probably split with the Chargers. We need to beat the Titans away in December to go 9-7 and at least have a winning season.

On a side note, I don't care about draft picks, we haven't had a good one since Gonzo. I'm rooting for my Chiefs to win, as always. Anyone who doesn't isn't really a fan, IMO...

11-22-2004, 07:46 AM	Topic Starter
Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	Tonight's Game / KC Playoff's Chances / AFC Overview Tonight's game should be a very interesting matchup. The Chiefs record, obviously, does not reflect how scary they are on offense. The battle between the Chiefs offense and the Pats defense should be very interesting indeed to see. The Steelers' offensive line blew the Pats defense away, of course, but alot of the problems there were more technique than anything else and (according to Patriots coaches' quotes lately) correctable. The Chiefs offensive line is at least as good if not better than the Steelers, so if nothing else we'll see if our defense is able to deal well with an outstanding offensive line. Unfortunately, it looks like the Chiefs are just playing for pride. As other threads have noted, victories yesterday by the Jets, Ravens, Colts, Broncos, Chargers and Steelers have sealed the deal for the Chiefs in terms of making the playoffs. 10-6 is the best the Chiefs can do, against a pretty tough schedule, and 10 wins won't get them a wildcard in the mighty AFC. The AFC West is also not likely to be winnable given that the Chiefs are pretty far behind not one, but two teams. The AFC's domination of the NFC continued yesterday, and it's beyond clear that the balance of power that used to favor the NFC in the 80s, etc. is now clearly with the AFC. The Rams have 5 losses, 3 of which are to AFC East teams (including the cellar dwelling Dolphins and Bills). The Iggles were utterly crushed by the Steelers for their only loss, and squeaked by the Ravens by a 15-10 score, at home. The Colts only losses have come to AFC Teams, while they have beaten all of their NFC opponents, which includes the best the NFC North has to offer (Green Bay and Minnesota). The Patriots have steamrolled St. Louis and Seattle, beat Arizona in AZ comfortably, and have only the Niners left to play. Pittsburgh's only loss, of course, came to division rival Baltimore. The AFC wildcard will require at least 11 wins to achieve, and the battle to go to the Super Bowl from the AFC will be extremely intense. I have little doubt that whoever wins the AFC Championship game will win the Super Bowl.
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11-22-2004, 07:58 AM	#2
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-831038 VARSITY	I don't know that Philly teams looks pretty tough right now. TO is in a zone. The QB can run around for 14 seconds and wait for a player to get open. They ain't gonna be a push over. They have been to the NFC championship 3 straight years. Maybe TO puts them over the top? __________________ Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
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11-22-2004, 08:12 AM	#4
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $877229	It pains you to list the Steelers up there with the Pats, doesn't it.... I can sense it. __________________
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11-22-2004, 08:16 AM	#8
StcChief Playing for #1 Draft Pick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Just West of Lambs land Casino cash: $10004900	I agree... Unfortunately, it looks like the Chiefs are just playing for pride. This is our superbowl this year. I look for NE or Pitt to take the superbowl easily. The AFC championship will be the best game in the playoffs. The AFC is the toughest conference now without a doubt top to bottom. Tonight..... As long as the Chiefs don't get stomped I'll be happy. This Jeykle and Hyde team especially on D, has sealed our playoff chances and even being a wildcard why bother now. Lets go for some good D picks/trade for next year. __________________ sig test for this screwy schema
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11-22-2004, 08:19 AM	#9
CHIEF4EVER Just a man in the 'ghan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Jalalabad, Afghanistan Casino cash: $10004900	There ain't a chance in Hades that we make the playoffs this year. Even the most optimistic Chieftain has to admit that it is nearly impossible (read: ME) __________________ "Igitur qui deciderat pacem, praeparatur bellum" -Flavius Vegetius Renatus
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11-22-2004, 08:30 AM	#10
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-831038 VARSITY	Hey we put 50+ points up on a good Atlanta team. We made Ray Ray look foolish. Maybe lightening can strike 3 times this season. Arrowhead will be a rocking no matter what. Gonna be fun. __________________ Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
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11-22-2004, 08:36 AM	#12
KCTitus Archivist Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Ethernet Casino cash: $9882732	Here's my breakdown/analysis of the game tonight... Tonight KC will play NE in Arrowhead and has a chance to win. That's the way I see it. __________________ Anything you post on this BB can and will be used against you...
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