ARE YOU BETTER OFF THAN YOU WERE FOUR YEARS AGO?

KCJohnny · 12-01-2004, 10:11 PM

In 2000, we were 7-9 with many close games lost by a thin margin. Our offense was rated #8 in the NFL (#4 in passing), our defense # 18. We had a very inexeperienced HC learning the game from the top who held steady at .500 after ZERO years as a HC.

In 2004, we are 3-8, out of the post season, sickeningly bad on defense, high in O (yards) but bad in record. We have a coach who has guided 2 teams to the SB. He is 30-28 after four years, barely above .500 (sure to sink below this season) which is where Gunther Cunningham was after 2 seasons and NO previous HCing experience.

President Reagan once asked our country this storied question; I ask you now, are you better off now than you were four years ago?

David. · 12-01-2004, 10:11 PM

yeah I was shorter back then.

suds79 · 12-01-2004, 10:21 PM

Worse. That's for sure.

I don't think people realize just how close we are to becoming an NFL bottom feeder for quite a few years.

We have a defense that has exactly 0 bigtime playmakers & and offense that's about 2 years away from having nearly every single member ready for retirement. Worse yet, even if it isn't certain memember's time yet to hang it up, certainly their play will have dropped off by then so it won't matter.

A coach who's ready to hang it up after leading us to 1 winning season in 4 years so our HCing situation is up in the air.

And just to top it off, we have a GM who we have absolutely no faith in drafting top level talent. None. Furthermore, this GM has more job security than anyone could possibly imagine.

Basically our only hope for him to be gone is to await for our aiging owner to pass on... Nice huh?

tk13 · 12-01-2004, 10:14 PM

Yeah I was about 15 pounds lighter, I was in 10 times better shape then. Now I'm an out of shape old man.

David. · 12-01-2004, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

How the Chiefs make the playoffs:
Make Ken Jennings the General Manager.

, full. blown. obsession.

tk13 · 12-01-2004, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by David.

, full. blown. obsession.

What? He's got nothing better to do now.

KCJohnny · 12-01-2004, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Yeah I was about 15 pounds lighter, I was in 10 times better shape then. Now I'm an out of shape old man.

Its your own fault!

tk13 · 12-01-2004, 10:14 PM

You know, I really don't like having the same avatar as David, when I post right after him I always think I accidently double-posted...

Logical · 12-01-2004, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

You know, I really don't like having the same avatar as David, when I post right after him I always think I accidently double-posted...

If you would photoshop some blood all over those animals it would give you a distinctive avy that I would find funny and Rep worthy.

David. · 12-01-2004, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

You know, I really don't like having the same avatar as David, when I post right after him I always think I accidently double-posted...

me too =/

**Rausch** · 12-01-2004, 10:21 PM

Don't worry, after Gun turns our defense around next season he'll be a HC somewhere...

**Dave Lane** · 12-01-2004, 10:23 PM

Yes we are better off. This team is 3 playmakers from major contention. You add a quality MLB, DE and CB and this team would rock. I'd see another 13-3 (heaven forbid) or 12-4 team next year. Jerry Porter or another quality WR would make us even better.

Get over it.

Dave

KCJohnny · 12-01-2004, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Yes we are better off. This team is 3 playmakers from major contention. You add a quality MLB, DE and CB and this team would rock. I'd see another 13-3 (heaven forbid) or 12-4 team next year. Jerry Porter or another quality WR would make us even better.

Get over it.

Dave

Yawn...in 2000, we were a TB, CB and NT away from "major contention" (read: playoff appearance, something we had plenty of in the Marty years). This team is NO CLOSER than the 2000 Chiefs, say what you will.

**Dave Lane** · 12-01-2004, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Yawn...in 2000, we were a TB, CB and NT away from "major contention" (read: playoff appearance, something we had plenty of in the Marty years). This team is NO CLOSER than the 2000 Chiefs, say what you will.

No we sucked! We had idiots for coaches IE the three stooges, RBBC, an moron for a QB, no character anywhere, and a porous defense that showed up when it wanted to. That team blew chunks. Other than you I can't think of a person that would trade this team for that team Gaack!

Anyone who would even consider it is getting addled or playing revisionist history. I think DV has faults but this season has been 5-6 plays from being 8-3. If you can't see that you are a bigger dolt than even I can imagine.

You are a broken record, but given your profession I guess thats what we should expect. Why don't you just shut the hell up? I'm really really tired of this nonsense. I hear the Bolts have an opening for a chaplain, say hi to Marty for me.

Dave

~doesn't like getting pissed like this but ENOUGH already.

Logical · 12-01-2004, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

No we sucked! We had idiots for coaches IE the three stooges, RBBC, an moron for a QB, no character anywhere, and a porous defense that showed up when it wanted to. That team blew chunks. Other than you I can't think of a person that would trade this team for that team Gaack!

Anyone who would even consider it is getting addled or playing revisionist history. I think DV has faults but this season has been 5-6 plays from being 8-3. If you can't see that you are a bigger dolt than even I can imagine.

You are a broken record, but given your profession I guess thats what we should expect. Why don't you just shut the hell up? I'm really really tired of this nonsense. I hear the Bolts have an opening for a chaplain, say hi to Marty for me.

Dave

~doesn't like getting pissed like this but ENOUGH already.

Believe it or not I agree with you completely this time Dave. Suprising huh?

12-01-2004, 10:11 PM	Topic Starter
KCJohnny Blind, deceived homer Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Maryland, USA Casino cash: $10004900	ARE YOU BETTER OFF THAN YOU WERE FOUR YEARS AGO? In 2000, we were 7-9 with many close games lost by a thin margin. Our offense was rated #8 in the NFL (#4 in passing), our defense # 18. We had a very inexeperienced HC learning the game from the top who held steady at .500 after ZERO years as a HC. In 2004, we are 3-8, out of the post season, sickeningly bad on defense, high in O (yards) but bad in record. We have a coach who has guided 2 teams to the SB. He is 30-28 after four years, barely above .500 (sure to sink below this season) which is where Gunther Cunningham was after 2 seasons and NO previous HCing experience. President Reagan once asked our country this storied question; I ask you now, are you better off now than you were four years ago?
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David. . Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: University of Missouri Casino cash: $10005850	yeah I was shorter back then.
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12-01-2004, 10:21 PM	#3
suds79 MVP Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10005036	Worse. That's for sure. I don't think people realize just how close we are to becoming an NFL bottom feeder for quite a few years. We have a defense that has exactly 0 bigtime playmakers & and offense that's about 2 years away from having nearly every single member ready for retirement. Worse yet, even if it isn't certain memember's time yet to hang it up, certainly their play will have dropped off by then so it won't matter. A coach who's ready to hang it up after leading us to 1 winning season in 4 years so our HCing situation is up in the air. And just to top it off, we have a GM who we have absolutely no faith in drafting top level talent. None. Furthermore, this GM has more job security than anyone could possibly imagine. Basically our only hope for him to be gone is to await for our aiging owner to pass on... Nice huh?
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12-01-2004, 10:23 PM	#12
Dave Lane Space Cadet and Aczabel Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kanab, UT, USA Casino cash: $9333275 VARSITY	Yes we are better off. This team is 3 playmakers from major contention. You add a quality MLB, DE and CB and this team would rock. I'd see another 13-3 (heaven forbid) or 12-4 team next year. Jerry Porter or another quality WR would make us even better. Get over it. Dave __________________ Thanks, Trump for the civics lesson. We are learning so much about RICO, espionage, sedition, impeachment, the 25th Amendment, order of succession, nepotism, separation of powers, 1st Amendment, obstruction of justice, the emoluments clause, conflicts of interest, collusion, sanctions, oligarchs, money laundering and so much more.
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12-01-2004, 10:14 PM	#4
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-2007500	Yeah I was about 15 pounds lighter, I was in 10 times better shape then. Now I'm an out of shape old man.
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