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Old 11-13-2005, 08:03 PM   Topic Starter
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Give up your season tickets for a few years and stop buying Chiefs merchandise??

Serious question. It appears thats the only way we are going to be able to get rid of Carl Peterson because all the Hunts care about is the Bottom line at this point. Realistically, the only way Carl leaves KC is if the season ticket base dips below 40,000-30,000 tickets like the 1980's. Would it be worth it to you???
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Old 11-13-2005, 08:05 PM   #2
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Old 11-13-2005, 08:06 PM   #3
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Give up your season tickets for a few years and stop buying Chiefs merchandise??

Serious question. It appears thats the only way we are going to be able to get rid of Carl Peterson because all the Hunts care about is the Bottom line at this point. Realistically, the only way Carl leaves KC is if the season ticket base dips below 40,000-30,000 tickets like the 1980's. Would it be worth it to you???
No way. A fan is a fan, win or lose. The guy will die off eventually.
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Old 11-13-2005, 08:06 PM   #4
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Didn't you start this thread last year?
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Old 11-13-2005, 08:07 PM   #5
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Didn't you start this thread last year?
You cant prove that!
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 11-13-2005, 08:08 PM   #6
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Old 11-13-2005, 08:09 PM   #7
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What I think is really messed up about all of this is. With what the fanbase of this team has been for the last 15 years. They'd be more willing to do a complete overhaul and have a 3-13 year looking to the future. The fans have stayed despite no playoff wins since 93. You'd think that kind of support would lead them to think they could take the risk to do a full on rebuild. Guess they don't view it that way.
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Old 11-13-2005, 08:12 PM   #8
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What I think is really messed up about all of this is. With what the fanbase of this team has been for the last 15 years. They'd be more willing to do a complete overhaul and have a 3-13 year looking to the future. The fans have stayed despite no playoff wins since 93. You'd think that kind of support would lead them to think they could take the risk to do a full on rebuild. Guess they don't view it that way.
True, the fans are here because of the team. Not because of anything CP has done the past 10-12 years or so. Why doesnt Hunt see this?? Ill give CP credit for making us love the team again from 89-1993 or so, but after that, its basically been the love and support of the fanbase being crapped on time and time again...
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 11-13-2005, 08:08 PM   #9
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It appears thats the only way we are going to be able to get rid of Carl Peterson because all the Hunts care about is the Bottom line at this point
ah ... the insidious catch-22 of Carl Peterson


he knows that to get rid of him the chiefs fans will have to punish themselves.

barring a complete collapse, he knows they won't do that.
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Old 11-13-2005, 08:10 PM   #10
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ah ... the insidious catch-22 of Carl Peterson


he knows that to get rid of him the chiefs fans will have to punish themselves.

barring a complete collapse, he knows they won't do that.
Exactly....the Dude has us by the balls and he knows it!
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Old 11-13-2005, 08:15 PM   #11
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The problem is, I don't believe it.

Carl has always persued players that the coaches have lobbied for, whether via draft or FA, and Lamar Hunt has given him money to spend on those FAs.

Carl's problem is the men he has put in charge on the field, and the scouting department.

Carl needs to go.
He is ultimately responsible for this team's playoff failures.

But he hasn't failed for lack of effort.
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Old 11-13-2005, 08:18 PM   #12
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The problem is, I don't believe it.

Carl has always persued players that the coaches have lobbied for, whether via draft or FA, and Lamar Hunt has given him money to spend on those FAs.

Carl's problem is the men he has put in charge on the field, and the scouting department.

Carl needs to go.
He is ultimately responsible for this team's playoff failures.

But he hasn't failed for lack of effort.
I'd definitely agree with that. I don't think Carl is apathetic to winning, to his credit he's tried darn near just about every avenue of building a team... using draft picks, mid-range FA's, signing big FA's, trading for guys like Montana... there really is very little he has not attempted in his dictatorship. None of it has worked though.
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Old 11-13-2005, 10:12 PM   #13
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I won't stop buying merchandise,however,my decision was made well before todays game that this will be my last season being a real fan for awhile.

I'm ready to enjoy my gameroom for a full season and since I'm not in the blackout area I have no concerns on not being able to follow the team.
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Old 11-13-2005, 10:17 PM   #14
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I won't stop buying merchandise,however,my decision was made well before todays game that this will be my last season being a real fan for awhile.

I'm ready to enjoy my gameroom for a full season and since I'm not in the blackout area I have no concerns on not being able to follow the team.
If I had a gameroom like yours I would never leave.

Your gameroom is heaven.
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Old 11-13-2005, 10:14 PM   #15
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I'd definitely agree with that. I don't think Carl is apathetic to winning, to his credit he's tried darn near just about every avenue of building a team... using draft picks, mid-range FA's, signing big FA's, trading for guys like Montana... there really is very little he has not attempted in his dictatorship. None of it has worked though.
I don't think it's lack of effort, I don't think Carl only cares about filling the seats, and I don't think he doesn't care about winning a Super Bowl. It's a combination of bad luck and incompetence.
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