It’s expensive, but it’s baaaahaaad.

Radar Chief · 03-17-2006, 03:17 PM

The deadliest fighter jet goes operational.
March 2006

The F22 Raptor air superiority fighter is the meanest airplane in the skies, and now its' coming to a TFR near you.
It’s official: The United States Air Force has certified the world’s only "fifth generation" fighter jet as operationally ready. The Lockheed Martin F-22 combines supersonic speed (including supersonic cruise without afterburner) with stealth and advanced targeting, weaponry and defense capabilities to make it hands down the most advanced fighter jet on the planet. With plans to field 183 Raptors in all, the Air Force has already begun to fly operational missions with the jet, including homeland defense missions, so you might see one any day now.
It wasn’t a short gestation period for the world’s best air superiority fighter. The need for a jet like the F-22 to replace the F-15 was first officially voiced by the Air Force in the early 1980s. But the first flight of the prototype YF-22 didn’t take place until 1990, while the first supersonic flight wouldn’t occur for another seven years.
While much of its performance remains classified, according to some reports, in aerial combat tests against F-15s and other frontline U.S. fighters, the
F-22 had a near perfect "kill record" and was never picked up by its foes’ radar during mock combat flights.
Such capabilities come at a price, though: The cost of each F-22, by some estimates, is around $125 million.

Linky.

patteeu · 03-17-2006, 03:21 PM

That's really cool. But...

YF23 > YF22

http://www.voodoo.cz/yf23/

StcChief · 03-17-2006, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu

That's really cool. But...

YF23 > YF22

http://www.voodoo.cz/yf23/

I was involved with YF23 when at MDC in 80s. bad a$$ plane

DanT · 03-17-2006, 06:47 PM

Here's a 2002 Popular Mechanics article that explains how in the heck the Joint Strike Fighter will be able to handle so many different missions:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/scie...tml?page=1&c=y

Logical · 03-17-2006, 03:24 PM

Only 183 to replace the almost 500 F-15s that were in service at one time. That is worrisome.

Chief Faithful · 03-17-2006, 03:28 PM

I had the opportunity to go and visit the F22 production line. One amazing stat was it's fly time was twice the F15 and could cruise at super sonic speeds giving it 3 times the distance without refueling.

**Donger** · 03-17-2006, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

Only 183 to replace the almost 500 F-15s that were in service at one time. That is worrisome.

Considering that eight of them recently took out 33 F-15Cs in an exercise without a single loss, I wouldn't be that concerned.

Pants · 03-17-2006, 03:35 PM

Su-35/Su-37.

**Donger** · 03-17-2006, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike

SU-35.

Peh. An Air Force pilot in a Cessna could shoot one of those down.

They do have great ejection seats, however, which is nice.

Weeeee!

Logical · 03-17-2006, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger

Peh. An Air Force pilot in a Cessna could shoot one of those down.

They do have great ejection seats, however, which is nice.

In all seriousness the Mig series were pretty sweet, though they were basically just copies of the F series with modifications/improvements. Them Ruskies sure knew how to steal a good design.

Pants · 03-17-2006, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger

Peh. An Air Force pilot in a Cessna could shoot one of those down.

They do have great ejection seats, however, which is nice.

I'm sure you know this, but there are whole websites dedicated to the F-22 vs. Su-35/37 hypothetical dogfights.

SBK · 03-17-2006, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger

Considering that eight of them recently took out 33 F-15Cs in an exercise without a single loss, I wouldn't be that concerned.

Wow.

RedNFeisty · 03-17-2006, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

Only 183 to replace the almost 500 F-15s that were in service at one time. That is worrisome.

Did you forget about the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Jet in production now!?!

Logical · 03-17-2006, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedNFeisty

Did you forget about the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Jet in production now!?!

JSF is supposed to replace the F-16, F14, A10, and AV-8B is even more worrisome as it is replacing planes that number in the mulitple 1000s with I believe around 600 aircraft.

RedNFeisty · 03-17-2006, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

JSF is supposed to replace the F-16, F14, F18, A10, and AV-8B is even more worrisome as it is replacing planes that number in the mulitple 1000s with I believe around 600 aircraft.

I just read a report saying they were going to help replace the F-15's!!

I know nothing, never listen(read) me!!

Have a wonderfull weekend all, time for me to go and have some fun!!

03-17-2006, 03:17 PM	Topic Starter
Radar Chief Wearing ballistic dog goggles. Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: In the box. Casino cash: $2811503	It’s expensive, but it’s baaaahaaad. The deadliest fighter jet goes operational. March 2006 The F22 Raptor air superiority fighter is the meanest airplane in the skies, and now its' coming to a TFR near you. It’s official: The United States Air Force has certified the world’s only "fifth generation" fighter jet as operationally ready. The Lockheed Martin F-22 combines supersonic speed (including supersonic cruise without afterburner) with stealth and advanced targeting, weaponry and defense capabilities to make it hands down the most advanced fighter jet on the planet. With plans to field 183 Raptors in all, the Air Force has already begun to fly operational missions with the jet, including homeland defense missions, so you might see one any day now. It wasn’t a short gestation period for the world’s best air superiority fighter. The need for a jet like the F-22 to replace the F-15 was first officially voiced by the Air Force in the early 1980s. But the first flight of the prototype YF-22 didn’t take place until 1990, while the first supersonic flight wouldn’t occur for another seven years. While much of its performance remains classified, according to some reports, in aerial combat tests against F-15s and other frontline U.S. fighters, the F-22 had a near perfect "kill record" and was never picked up by its foes’ radar during mock combat flights. Such capabilities come at a price, though: The cost of each F-22, by some estimates, is around $125 million. Linky.
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DanT Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Davis, CA Casino cash: $1551711	Here's a 2002 Popular Mechanics article that explains how in the heck the Joint Strike Fighter will be able to handle so many different missions: http://www.popularmechanics.com/scie...tml?page=1&c=y
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