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Old 04-07-2006, 09:19 AM   Topic Starter
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Help with peel and stick flooring
OK... quick question. My wife and I are putting down some peel and stick flooring in the bathroom (actually sister-in-law is doing it). We pulled up the old stuff (it was buckling, so we couldn't just lay the new stuff down on top), there's quite a bit of adhesive left on the floor... two questions, will that be a problem for the new tile and if so, do you know of anything to dissolve it that won't cause permanent damage to the floor and/or home?
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Old 04-07-2006, 09:22 AM   #2
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My guess will be if the old adhesive is 3-dimensional, those lumps will transfer through the new vinyl.


And I don't think you'll be able to dissolve it. Anything strong enough to dissolve something old like that would probably have to be some pretty potent stuff. I know scraping will likely be back-breaking, but it's probably your only realistic option.
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Old 04-07-2006, 09:23 AM   #3
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My guess will be if the old adhesive is 3-dimensional, those lumps will transfer through the new vinyl.


And I don't think you'll be able to dissolve it. Anything strong enough to dissolve something old like that would probably have to be some pretty potent stuff. I know scraping will likely be back-breaking, but it's probably your only realistic option.
If that's the only viable option, what about running a belt sander over it quickly?
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Old 04-07-2006, 09:24 AM   #4
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Try renting a floor sander with like 40 grade sandpaper. That might get that crap up.

Good luck. That shit is tough to clean.
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Old 04-07-2006, 09:25 AM   #5
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That shit is tough to clean.
That's REALLY not what I wanted to hear. The SIL is coming down tonight to do the floor tomorrow.
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Old 04-07-2006, 09:28 AM   #6
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My guess will be if the old adhesive is 3-dimensional, those lumps will transfer through the new vinyl.


And I don't think you'll be able to dissolve it. Anything strong enough to dissolve something old like that would probably have to be some pretty potent stuff. I know scraping will likely be back-breaking, but it's probably your only realistic option.
I know there are places, ie Lowe's, that sell stuff to dissolve that adhesive, but in my opinion it is not worth the money and time to use since you just end up scraping the stuff up anyway.

Depending on how much square footage there is I would just hand scrape it or as mentioned previously the floor sander.

Good luck.
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I know there are places, ie Lowe's, that sell stuff to dissolve that adhesive, but in my opinion it is not worth the money and time to use since you just end up scraping the stuff up anyway.

Depending on how much square footage there is I would just hand scrape it or as mentioned previously the floor sander.

Good luck.
Not big enough for a floor sander, guaranteed. It's a small bathroom -- the 45-square-feet of tile I bought will be plenty.
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Not big enough for a floor sander, guaranteed. It's a small bathroom -- the 45-square-feet of tile I bought will be plenty.
*I* would just hand scrape it then. It would not take too much time to do and that way you would know it is done right and the floor is smooth.
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*I* would just hand scrape it then. It would not take too much time to do and that way you would know it is done right and the floor is smooth.
Dammit... I didn't WANT to do that!!!
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Old 04-07-2006, 09:34 AM   #10
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*I* would just hand scrape it then. It would not take too much time to do and that way you would know it is done right and the floor is smooth.
Wait a minute... I just noticed the emphasis on "I," meaning you, epitome. I'll be sending you a PM with my address. I need it done by tomorrow morning.

I'll give you some rep as soon as it's done. Thanks, and I guess I'll see you this afternoon!
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A belt sander would probably work quite well if you can get belts that don't gum up or tear. Keep in mind that will kick up a lot of dust. Probably more than you think. Be sure to seal off the vents and doorway.

Is the old adhesive really hard, or is it still somewhat flexible?
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A belt sander would probably work quite well if you can get belts that don't gum up or tear. Keep in mind that will kick up a lot of dust. Probably more than you think. Be sure to seal off the vents and doorway.

Is the old adhesive really hard, or is it still somewhat flexible?
??? No idea... still sticky, that's for sure. I would guess, since it's still tacky, that it's flexible. By lumps, did you mean big lumps, or just textured like it would be? There aren't any spots that are taller than others, it's all smooth on the floor, but it's still sticky... I kinda thought it would actually help the new tile stick. But I certainly could be wrong.
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??? No idea... still sticky, that's for sure. I would guess, since it's still tacky, that it's flexible. By lumps, did you mean big lumps, or just textured like it would be? There aren't any spots that are taller than others, it's all smooth on the floor, but it's still sticky... I kinda thought it would actually help the new tile stick. But I certainly could be wrong.
If it's all smooth, I don't think you need to worry about it in terms of making your new floor lumpy, which is what I thought your concern was.

As to whether it hamper the adhesion of the new, my guess is they probably make a primer for those self adhering tiles. You need to go ahead and put in what little time and effort priming reguires, so that you don't have tiles peeling up in two years. Go to one of the big box stores, or wherever you bought the stuff, and ask about something to prime the surface, and potential interaction with old adhesives.
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If it's all smooth, I don't think you need to worry about it in terms of making your new floor lumpy, which is what I thought your concern was.

As to whether it hamper the adhesion of the new, my guess is they probably make a primer for those self adhering tiles. You need to go ahead and put in what little time and effort priming reguires, so that you don't have tiles peeling up in two years. Go to one of the big box stores, or wherever you bought the stuff, and ask about something to prime the surface, and potential interaction with old adhesives.
I knew it needed primer -- I've already got that (from the last time I did another room)... I probably need to ask about the interaction with old adhesive though. Thank God there's a Lowe's in Warrensburg, now.
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Old 04-07-2006, 09:27 AM   #15
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You can get some concrete backer board & screw it down to secure it. It'll raise the floor about 1/8 inch but it'll be smooth. Then get a strip to transition the floor from the next room.
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