Just watched Hali and Croyle in the Senior Bowl.

Coogs · 07:55 PM

I have to admit, the last two days were not very exciting. I really had hope for a draft that would leave me pumped. And being the Homer that I am, I didn't think that would be all that hard to do. But the last two days did nothing for me. So, I thought I would watch the Senior Bowl! Thought that might pump me up a bit. And, Croyle I do like. But...

I was very unimpressed with Hali. I know he was given the defensive MVP for the game, but I don't have a clue how that happened. I think it was because he happend to make a play everytime they were focused on him..... which was three times and three times only. The first happened to be right when they drew a circle on him and said let's focus on Hali. Up to that point (in the 2nd quarter) he had done nothing. And I mean nothing! The O-linemen he was going aginst were stoning him on every play. On this particular play, he happened to get a bit of a push, broke inside the RT, and flushed the QB out of the pocket and into an incompletion.

The second play he made, again after a long stretch of doing absolutely nothing, he sacked the QB on a straight line rush to the QB where he was left totally unblocked. Missed assignment big time by the O-line.

And the last came late in the game against Croyle. The only real good play he made the whole game IMO. He pushed the RT back, split the guard, and sacked Croyle with one hand.

All-in-all, Hali's play reminded me a whole lot of a current KC Chiefs DE. No, not Allen. The other one. The one we all want ran out of town. Not real confident we have upgraded that spot right now.

So, after watching the game, I'm still as disappointed in the draft as I was before I watched the game. Like the Croyle pick. That is about it for now.

shaneo69 · 04-30-2006, 07:53 PM

I have that tape as well, and we popped it in yesterday after the 1st round, and I thought the same thing about Hali. Wasn't impressed.

I also just mentioned in another thread that Hali reminds me of Hicks.

CoMoChief · 04-30-2006, 07:54 PM

BUT HE HAS GOOD CHARACTER!!!

Coogs · 04-30-2006, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BSPimpDude

BUT HE HAS GOOD CHARACTER!!!

Yeah, well there is that. Not sure how much pressure on the QB that is going to help with, but there is that.

jiveturkey · 04-30-2006, 07:59 PM

How many big plays are DE supposed to make in a game?

Coogs · 04-30-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jiveturkey

How many big plays are DE supposed to make in a game?

I was just expecting to see a DE that was a force to be reckoned with on every play. Instead, I saw a DE that was stood up at the point of attack damn near every single play. I don't know about you, but that just does not excite me very much.

shaneo69 · 04-30-2006, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

I was just expecting to see a DE that was a force to be reconed with on every play. Instead, I saw a DE that was stood up at the point of attack damn near every single play. I don't know about you, but that just does not excite me very much.

On a couple of the plays I saw, the OT just rode him into the middle of the line while DeAngelo Williams walked around the end. Then one passing play he got a little pressure going inside, but the announcer even said he dropped containment and the QB could've ran for an easy 1st down.

**dirk digler** · 04-30-2006, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

I was just expecting to see a DE that was a force to be reckoned with on every play. Instead, I saw a DE that was stood up at the point of attack damn near every single play. I don't know about you, but that just does not excite me very much.

Didn't he have 11 sacks this season in 12 games this season? I would take that.

Plus he had the game deciding sack and turnover against the almighty Ohio State who had like 20 players drafted.

I call that impressive but that is just me.

Frankie · 05-01-2006, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jiveturkey

How many big plays are DE supposed to make in a game?

Three!. And only when the cameras are focusing on you. You can lie down and grab a glass of wine and enjoy a blissful nap while the cameras aren't showing you. Which is what Hali did in the Senior Bowl according to our resident talent experts.

shaneo69 · 04-30-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Yeah, well there is that. Not sure how much pressure on the QB that is going to help with, but there is that.

When we're 1-4 next year, there won't be anyone you'd rather have in your locker room than Tamba Hali.

shaneo69 · 04-30-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69

When we're 1-4 next year, there won't be anyone you'd rather have in your locker room than Tamba Hali.

Wow I'm slow.

Hammock Parties · 04-30-2006, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69

Wow I'm slow.

owned

Hammock Parties · 04-30-2006, 07:59 PM

He can handle being 1-4.

Sure-Oz · 04-30-2006, 08:01 PM

Larry Johnsons sucked too, and he is from Penn State, who has a history of shitty RB's.

**Dunit35** · 04-30-2006, 08:08 PM

Maybe his good character can work to an advantage for us. He could maybe talk the tackle into going easy for a few plays or something.

04-30-2006, 07:45 PM	Topic Starter
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2305651	Just watched Hali and Croyle in the Senior Bowl. I have to admit, the last two days were not very exciting. I really had hope for a draft that would leave me pumped. And being the Homer that I am, I didn't think that would be all that hard to do. But the last two days did nothing for me. So, I thought I would watch the Senior Bowl! Thought that might pump me up a bit. And, Croyle I do like. But... I was very unimpressed with Hali. I know he was given the defensive MVP for the game, but I don't have a clue how that happened. I think it was because he happend to make a play everytime they were focused on him..... which was three times and three times only. The first happened to be right when they drew a circle on him and said let's focus on Hali. Up to that point (in the 2nd quarter) he had done nothing. And I mean nothing! The O-linemen he was going aginst were stoning him on every play. On this particular play, he happened to get a bit of a push, broke inside the RT, and flushed the QB out of the pocket and into an incompletion. The second play he made, again after a long stretch of doing absolutely nothing, he sacked the QB on a straight line rush to the QB where he was left totally unblocked. Missed assignment big time by the O-line. And the last came late in the game against Croyle. The only real good play he made the whole game IMO. He pushed the RT back, split the guard, and sacked Croyle with one hand. All-in-all, Hali's play reminded me a whole lot of a current KC Chiefs DE. No, not Allen. The other one. The one we all want ran out of town. Not real confident we have upgraded that spot right now. So, after watching the game, I'm still as disappointed in the draft as I was before I watched the game. Like the Croyle pick. That is about it for now. Last edited by Coogs; 04-30-2006 at 07:55 PM..
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