ESPN's Football Dream Team

bobbything · 09:22 AM

Okay, ESPN is officially stupid. I looked at John Clayton's dream team where he lists the best possible players at their respective positions and the best possible backups. It really was a thing of stupidity. For instance...

While Chad Johnson was listed as a starting WR, his backup was (drum roll)....Dante Hall??? Santana Moss and Steve Smith were the other two starters (which is fine I suppose), but because they didn't pick the backups from a list of actual backups, I find it odd that there was no Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, or Larry Fitzgerald. I mean, if you're going to pick a WR from the Chiefs, why not go with Kennison?

Also, in the TE spot, missing was Crumpler, Gonzalez, and/or Witten. Basically, for some reason, Clayton had just about every San Diego Charger on his team. Also, not one Chief on the Offensive Line.

Here's the list; you can decide for yourself...

QB: Peyton Manning, Matt Schaub, Andrew Walter
RB: LaDanian Tomlinson, Marion Barber, Lendale White, Darren Sproles
WR1: Chad Johnson, Dante Hall
WR2: Steve Smith, Dave Tyree
WR3: Santana Moss, Roscoe Parrish
TE: Antonio Gates, Chris Cooley, Leonard Pope
LT: Walter Jones, Michael Roos, Marcus McNeil
LG: Eric Steinbach, Richie Incognito
C: Jeff Saturday, Chris Spencer
RG: Chris Snee, Richie Incognito
RT: Jammal Brown, Michael Roos, Marcus McNeil

I don't have time to list the defensive starters. But Jarred Allen was a 3rd stringer.

**DaKCMan AP** · 07-17-2006, 09:24 AM

Looks like the backups are actual backups.

About the O-Line, I don't think there's a LG in the league I'd rather have than Brian Waters. Otherwise, I can't argue much with any of the other starter picks.

I'd change a few backups, though.

bobbything · 07-17-2006, 09:29 AM

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ooks like the backups are actual backups.

Some of them are. Jarred Allen and Chris Cooley aren't. But they're listed as backups in this format.

I don't think Marion Barber is either.

**DaKCMan AP** · 07-17-2006, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbything

Some of them are. Jarred Allen and Chris Cooley aren't. But they're listed as backups in this format.

I don't think Marion Barber is either.

ah..I was only looking at the offensive list.

Marion Barber is a backup to Julius Jones.

chagrin · 07-17-2006, 09:33 AM

Marion Barber
that's pretty funny, what dream is this again?

**DaKCMan AP** · 07-17-2006, 09:35 AM

I also think Christian Fauria is the skins starting TE, FWIW.

For some reason Cooley isn't listed on their depth chart.

58-4ever · 07-17-2006, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

I also think Christian Fauria is the skins starting TE, FWIW.

For some reason Cooley isn't listed on their depth chart.

He's not listed? I wonder if it's because he plays many positions like our secret weapon, Kris Wilson.

meStevo · 07-17-2006, 10:37 AM

Cooley was awesome down the stretch in Fantasy Football last year.... 'hmm, i think ill start him at... FB, the spot that averages me a whole 4-5 points!' *whistles*

58-4ever · 07-17-2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by meStevo

Cooley was awesome down the stretch in Fantasy Football last year.... 'hmm, i think ill start him at... FB, the spot that averages me a whole 4-5 points!' *whistles*

You played in a FFL with a FB position? No offense, but that's kind of stupid.

ct · 07-17-2006, 09:35 AM

If he had been consitent w/ backups as backups, it's not horrible. It certainly seems to me he included Dante as a backup WR to use him as his KR, considering his other choices in Tyree and Parrish.

I can see not including Roaf/Shields, as the age thing is significant. But I absolutely would have either Waters or Hutch at LG, never even considering anyone else.

Messier · 07-17-2006, 09:46 AM

I got made too untill I saw the point of the "dream team" is to keep the whole team under the salary cap.

meStevo · 07-17-2006, 10:03 AM

Ya, its a dream team he can put together under todays salary cap, with his ideal players at each position with that as his limitation so thats you don't have TO/LJ/Our entire OL/etc.

Moooo · 07-17-2006, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by meStevo

Ya, its a dream team he can put together under todays salary cap, with his ideal players at each position with that as his limitation so thats you don't have TO/LJ/Our entire OL/etc.

That would also explain why they didn't put Holmes at the backup RB position cause, come on.

I mean, since it doesn't really matter if he is or isn't coming back, being just a piece of internet paper.

Moooo

bobbything · 07-17-2006, 10:12 AM

I see. I guess that makes more sense. San Diego must be grossly underpaying many of their starters on offense. I suppose I could argue with some of his choices, but overall I suppose it makes sense.

BTW, does Jarred Allen really only make $500,000??

07-17-2006, 09:16 AM	Topic Starter
bobbything Distributor of Pain Join Date: Nov 2004 Casino cash: $8644900	ESPN's Football Dream Team Okay, ESPN is officially stupid. I looked at John Clayton's dream team where he lists the best possible players at their respective positions and the best possible backups. It really was a thing of stupidity. For instance... While Chad Johnson was listed as a starting WR, his backup was (drum roll)....Dante Hall??? Santana Moss and Steve Smith were the other two starters (which is fine I suppose), but because they didn't pick the backups from a list of actual backups, I find it odd that there was no Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, or Larry Fitzgerald. I mean, if you're going to pick a WR from the Chiefs, why not go with Kennison? Also, in the TE spot, missing was Crumpler, Gonzalez, and/or Witten. Basically, for some reason, Clayton had just about every San Diego Charger on his team. Also, not one Chief on the Offensive Line. Here's the list; you can decide for yourself... QB: Peyton Manning, Matt Schaub, Andrew Walter RB: LaDanian Tomlinson, Marion Barber, Lendale White, Darren Sproles WR1: Chad Johnson, Dante Hall WR2: Steve Smith, Dave Tyree WR3: Santana Moss, Roscoe Parrish TE: Antonio Gates, Chris Cooley, Leonard Pope LT: Walter Jones, Michael Roos, Marcus McNeil LG: Eric Steinbach, Richie Incognito C: Jeff Saturday, Chris Spencer RG: Chris Snee, Richie Incognito RT: Jammal Brown, Michael Roos, Marcus McNeil I don't have time to list the defensive starters. But Jarred Allen was a 3rd stringer. Last edited by bobbything; 07-17-2006 at 09:22 AM..
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07-17-2006, 09:24 AM	#3
DaKCMan AP Beloved & Awesome CP Celebrity Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Florida Casino cash: $5594952	Looks like the backups are actual backups. About the O-Line, I don't think there's a LG in the league I'd rather have than Brian Waters. Otherwise, I can't argue much with any of the other starter picks. I'd change a few backups, though. __________________
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07-17-2006, 09:33 AM	#6
chagrin Giggitty! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Missoula, Mt Casino cash: $9804905	Marion Barber that's pretty funny, what dream is this again? __________________ Times have changed, so have I, things are better now.
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07-17-2006, 09:35 AM	#7
DaKCMan AP Beloved & Awesome CP Celebrity Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Florida Casino cash: $5594952	I also think Christian Fauria is the skins starting TE, FWIW. For some reason Cooley isn't listed on their depth chart. __________________
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07-17-2006, 10:37 AM	#9
meStevo Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Las Vegas, NV Casino cash: $7470025	Cooley was awesome down the stretch in Fantasy Football last year.... 'hmm, i think ill start him at... FB, the spot that averages me a whole 4-5 points!' whistles
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07-17-2006, 09:35 AM	#11
ct u b illian Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: DooDah Casino cash: $10009436	If he had been consitent w/ backups as backups, it's not horrible. It certainly seems to me he included Dante as a backup WR to use him as his KR, considering his other choices in Tyree and Parrish. I can see not including Roaf/Shields, as the age thing is significant. But I absolutely would have either Waters or Hutch at LG, never even considering anyone else.
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07-17-2006, 09:46 AM	#12
Messier MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $10005050	I got made too untill I saw the point of the "dream team" is to keep the whole team under the salary cap.
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07-17-2006, 10:03 AM	#13
meStevo Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Las Vegas, NV Casino cash: $7470025	Ya, its a dream team he can put together under todays salary cap, with his ideal players at each position with that as his limitation so thats you don't have TO/LJ/Our entire OL/etc.
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07-17-2006, 10:12 AM	#15
bobbything Distributor of Pain Join Date: Nov 2004 Casino cash: $8644900	I see. I guess that makes more sense. San Diego must be grossly underpaying many of their starters on offense. I suppose I could argue with some of his choices, but overall I suppose it makes sense. BTW, does Jarred Allen really only make $500,000??
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