I told you they are going after all dogs.

BIG_DADDY · 12-13-2006, 12:41 PM

I haven't posted on this for a long time and there is a disturbing new trend amoungst the psycho's who want to go after our dogs. The new trend is to go after all dogs above a certain weight. The newest legislation being proposed is in Benld, IL where they are drafting an ordinance BANNING all dogs over 15 pounds

This is the Mayors office:

201 E Central Ave
Benld, IL 62009, USA
(217) 835-2000
Tom Campbell

In Desoto Texas they want to go after all dogs over 50 lbs.

Be advised that what passes in one Texas city is copied by other cities,
whether it effectively addresses the animal problem or not. It's easy to
just pass another law.

The city of DeSoto, Texas, is holding a Town Hall Meeting on Thursday, December 7th, at 7:00 p.m. to discuss the possibility of banning certain breeds of dogs or banning ownership of all dogs over 50 lbs. Other options include "limiting the number of animals in a specific space."

Texas state law prohibits Breed Specific Legislation (BSL), but we expect
numerous bills to be filed regarding dangerous dogs when the legislature
convenes in January, including another attempt to repeal the existing law.
RPOA defeated such an attempt last legislative session with the help of many
breed clubs. The woman recently in the news who received the face
transplant was attacked by a Labrador Retriever. No breed of dog is
inherently vicious.

City Council Chambers are located at Town Center, 211 E. Pleasant Run Road
(corner of Pleasant Run and Hampton Road, DeSoto, TX 75115).
The city council is interested in hearing all points of view and positions
on this issue and urges everyone to attend this important meeting. For more
information, contact the Action Center at (972) 230-9600.

DeSoto's website says there is a growing concern over aggressive dogs in
their neighborhoods manifested by "dogs running at large without proper ID."
Most severe or fatal dog attacks result from dogs running at large, yet
there is never any mention of strict enforcement of Leash Laws.

Although mandatory spay/neuter is being touted as the solution to all evils
(upon impoundment of loose dogs), it will not stop these attacks if the dogs
are running at large. It's the opposite end of the dog that bites!
Let DeSoto city officials know that their city already has enough laws
(Leash Law, Nuisance Law and Pet Limits). Ask that they be enforced.

Contact Information:
Jim Baugh, City Manager
Phone: (972) 230-9643
Fax: (972) 230-9643
[email protected]

Mayor Michael Hurtt
http://www.ci.desoto.tx.us/mayor.htm

All council members may be emailed with one click at:
www.ci.desoto.tx.us/contact_council.htm.

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This is the new front on the war on dogs taking place in our country. This will be the new approach by animal rights groups such as teh HSUS

I guess Rudi Guiliani is a real big dog legislation guy as well:

If Rudy Guiliani is the president, KISS YOUR PIT BULLS, PIT BULL MIXES AND PIT BULL-LOOKING DOGS GOOD-BYE!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061114/...r/giuliani2008

It's official, he's going for the Presidency in 2008. All other issues aside, Pit Bull owners concerned about BSL should NOT support Guiliani. He has expressly stated that he believes Pit Bulls should be exterminated. He tried to pass a law in NY imposing very strict regulations against Pit Bulls. He has made no secret of the fact that he despises Pit Bulls. He wanted to ELIMINATE HEARINGS on dangerous dogs and let cities DESTROY pets without such a hearing.

http://www.jrn.columbia.edu/studentw...8/pitbull.html

Any politician that advocates ELIMINATING due process HEARINGS for any reason is NO politician that should be President of the United States. Hearings for people accused of committing crimes are a Constitutional Right (and most dangerous dog citations fall under the criminal code against the owner). Rudy Guiliani wants to bypass the United States Constitution and deprive people of their Constitutional Rights.

Sound familiar?

And this time it's not even to allegedly fight TERRORISM. It's because he doesn't like the kind of DOGS some people own.

Scary.

Read more about Guiliani and his views on Pit Bulls

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstra...t%20New%20York

Giuliani Proposes Tough Law on 'Dangerous' Dogs, Angering Owners

*Please Note: Archive articles do not include photos, charts or graphics. More information. January 28, 1999, Thursday

By DAN BARRY (NYT); Metropolitan Desk
Late Edition - Final, Section B, Page 1, Column 2, 933 words

DISPLAYING ABSTRACT - New York City Mayor Giuliani administration trains its quality-of-life sights on city's dogs with bill that would increase fines for harboring dogs deemed to be dangerous, deny dogs any consideration for being provoked into barking or biting, and require owners of pit bulls to obtain $100,000 in liability insurance before being granted dog license

I'm also wondering -- so under his regime, if a serial murderer breaks into your home and tries to kill you, and your dog BITES the would-be killer, your dog is deemed dangerous without a hearing and euthanized?

I don't care who ELSE you support for President, but I urge all dog owners to vote NO to Rudy Guiliani and to spread the word far and wide. We have a year to get the word out to dog lovers everywhere.

Rudy Guiliani cannot be the next President, and it has so much more to do with DOGS. It has to do with basic due process rights afforded by the United States Constitution... rights that separate this country from many others.... Rights that many men and women have died protecting.

**penguinz** · 12-13-2006, 12:47 PM

What a bunch of BS. Size has nothing to do with a dog being dangerous.

Redrum_69 · 12-13-2006, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz

What a bunch of BS. Size has nothing to do with a dog being dangerous.

If that was the case they'd ban your mom long ago...

**penguinz** · 12-13-2006, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrum_69

If that was the case they'd ban your mom long ago...

You have lost your burst. It has been ages since one of your little posts has been the least bit entertaining let alone funny. You need to go back to when you would pop in rare occasions.

Redrum_69 · 12-13-2006, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz

You have lost your burst. It has been ages since one of your little posts has been the least bit entertaining let alone funny. You need to go back to when you would pop in rare occasions.

I'm just trying to get my post count up to 1000 by whatever means necessary

**penguinz** · 12-13-2006, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrum_69

I'm just trying to get my post count up to 1000 by whatever means necessary

Why is that? Do you feel having a large post count will make your other inadequacies disappear?

King_Chief_Fan · 12-13-2006, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz

You have lost your burst. It has been ages since one of your little posts has been the least bit entertaining let alone funny. You need to go back to when you would pop in rare occasions.

Redrums mom is a dog.........ban her.

HonestChieffan · 12-13-2006, 12:47 PM

Like anything it can be taken to far. The banning of Pitbulls is fine with me butto say they are going to take somebodys lab is simply silly

BIG_DADDY · 12-13-2006, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

Like anything it can be taken to far. The banning of Pitbulls is fine with me butto say they are going to take somebodys lab is simply silly

The goal of the animal rights groups was to demonize pit bulls so they could pass vicious dog legislation and then add breeds to it. What's happening now is dog owners in particular pit bull owners are getting their shit together. They are proving the breed is not human aggressive by nature and that it's a people problem that is not breed specific. The goal of animal rights groups is to end the domestic ownership of all animals it's just a matter of the way they go about it. Being that they are beginning to lose more than they are winning now on BSL they are shifting gears and going after all dogs by size. Remember their goal. This has never been a pit bull issue, it's always been a dog issue in general. I told people this would happen but I was told I was crazy and paranoid.

For the record labs bite more people than any other dog in the bay area where I live.

**Donger** · 12-13-2006, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

For the record labs bite more people than any other dog in the bay area where I live.

And how many of those resulted in maiming or death? I don't agree with banning, but let's acknowledge that certqain breeds are more capable of inflicting serious injury than others.

BIG_DADDY · 12-13-2006, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dongless

And how many of those resulted in maiming or death? I don't agree with banning, but let's acknowledge that certqain breeds are more capable of inflicting serious injury than others.

No question. There are many breeds capable of quite extensive damage.

Chiefnj · 12-13-2006, 01:05 PM

If all Pit Bull breeders were reputable and only sold to reputable persons this wouldn't be a big issue.

FAX · 12-13-2006, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

No question. There are many breeds capable of quite extensive damage.

In my experience, the Great White Pekingese is an unruly little bastard. Don't go near their water.

FAX

Eleazar · 12-13-2006, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dongless

And how many of those resulted in maiming or death? I don't agree with banning, but let's acknowledge that certqain breeds are more capable of inflicting serious injury than others.

Or that a breed like a Lab is probably infinitely more common than a pit bull resulting in a larger raw number of bites.

BucEyedPea · 12-13-2006, 12:48 PM

Doggone!

12-13-2006, 12:41 PM	Topic Starter
BIG_DADDY THE RED MENACE Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas Casino cash: $2558410	I told you they are going after all dogs. I haven't posted on this for a long time and there is a disturbing new trend amoungst the psycho's who want to go after our dogs. The new trend is to go after all dogs above a certain weight. The newest legislation being proposed is in Benld, IL where they are drafting an ordinance BANNING all dogs over 15 pounds This is the Mayors office: 201 E Central Ave Benld, IL 62009, USA (217) 835-2000 Tom Campbell In Desoto Texas they want to go after all dogs over 50 lbs. Be advised that what passes in one Texas city is copied by other cities, whether it effectively addresses the animal problem or not. It's easy to just pass another law. The city of DeSoto, Texas, is holding a Town Hall Meeting on Thursday, December 7th, at 7:00 p.m. to discuss the possibility of banning certain breeds of dogs or banning ownership of all dogs over 50 lbs. Other options include "limiting the number of animals in a specific space." Texas state law prohibits Breed Specific Legislation (BSL), but we expect numerous bills to be filed regarding dangerous dogs when the legislature convenes in January, including another attempt to repeal the existing law. RPOA defeated such an attempt last legislative session with the help of many breed clubs. The woman recently in the news who received the face transplant was attacked by a Labrador Retriever. No breed of dog is inherently vicious. City Council Chambers are located at Town Center, 211 E. Pleasant Run Road (corner of Pleasant Run and Hampton Road, DeSoto, TX 75115). The city council is interested in hearing all points of view and positions on this issue and urges everyone to attend this important meeting. For more information, contact the Action Center at (972) 230-9600. DeSoto's website says there is a growing concern over aggressive dogs in their neighborhoods manifested by "dogs running at large without proper ID." Most severe or fatal dog attacks result from dogs running at large, yet there is never any mention of strict enforcement of Leash Laws. Although mandatory spay/neuter is being touted as the solution to all evils (upon impoundment of loose dogs), it will not stop these attacks if the dogs are running at large. It's the opposite end of the dog that bites! Let DeSoto city officials know that their city already has enough laws (Leash Law, Nuisance Law and Pet Limits). Ask that they be enforced. Contact Information: Jim Baugh, City Manager Phone: (972) 230-9643 Fax: (972) 230-9643 [email protected] Mayor Michael Hurtt http://www.ci.desoto.tx.us/mayor.htm All council members may be emailed with one click at: www.ci.desoto.tx.us/contact_council.htm. Responsible Pet Owners Alliance 900 NE Loop 410 #311-D San Antonio, TX 78209 Phone: (210) 822-6763 Fax: (210) 822-9038 Website: www. responsiblepetowners. org $15 Annual dues (January - December) To share information, subscribe or unsubscribe, send an e-mail message to rpoa @ texas.net. This is the new front on the war on dogs taking place in our country. This will be the new approach by animal rights groups such as teh HSUS I guess Rudi Guiliani is a real big dog legislation guy as well: If Rudy Guiliani is the president, KISS YOUR PIT BULLS, PIT BULL MIXES AND PIT BULL-LOOKING DOGS GOOD-BYE! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061114/...r/giuliani2008 It's official, he's going for the Presidency in 2008. All other issues aside, Pit Bull owners concerned about BSL should NOT support Guiliani. He has expressly stated that he believes Pit Bulls should be exterminated. He tried to pass a law in NY imposing very strict regulations against Pit Bulls. He has made no secret of the fact that he despises Pit Bulls. He wanted to ELIMINATE HEARINGS on dangerous dogs and let cities DESTROY pets without such a hearing. http://www.jrn.columbia.edu/studentw...8/pitbull.html Any politician that advocates ELIMINATING due process HEARINGS for any reason is NO politician that should be President of the United States. Hearings for people accused of committing crimes are a Constitutional Right (and most dangerous dog citations fall under the criminal code against the owner). Rudy Guiliani wants to bypass the United States Constitution and deprive people of their Constitutional Rights. Sound familiar? And this time it's not even to allegedly fight TERRORISM. It's because he doesn't like the kind of DOGS some people own. Scary. Read more about Guiliani and his views on Pit Bulls http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstra...t%20New%20York Giuliani Proposes Tough Law on 'Dangerous' Dogs, Angering Owners Please Note: Archive articles do not include photos, charts or graphics. More information. January 28, 1999, Thursday By DAN BARRY (NYT); Metropolitan Desk Late Edition - Final, Section B, Page 1, Column 2, 933 words DISPLAYING ABSTRACT - New York City Mayor Giuliani administration trains its quality-of-life sights on city's dogs with bill that would increase fines for harboring dogs deemed to be dangerous, deny dogs any consideration for being provoked into barking or biting*, and require owners of pit bulls to obtain $100,000 in liability insurance before being granted dog license I'm also wondering -- so under his regime, if a serial murderer breaks into your home and tries to kill you, and your dog BITES the would-be killer, your dog is deemed dangerous without a hearing and euthanized? I don't care who ELSE you support for President, but I urge all dog owners to vote NO to Rudy Guiliani and to spread the word far and wide. We have a year to get the word out to dog lovers everywhere. Rudy Guiliani cannot be the next President, and it has so much more to do with DOGS. It has to do with basic due process rights afforded by the United States Constitution... rights that separate this country from many others.... Rights that many men and women have died protecting.
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